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10-14-06, 06:17 PM
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hi guys, this will be my first winter with my gx470. anybody have any recommendations for winter tires? for what its worth, i live in montreal, quebec, so the winters are serious here.
thanks in advance as usual...
amnon
thanks in advance as usual...
amnon
10-14-06, 10:11 PM
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well since i'm from canada as well.. and i know exactly what u mean. I suggest blizzak works good.
10-15-06, 07:55 AM
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10-15-06, 07:52 PM
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cv... this is my first yr with 20's but i'm planing to put my stock back on in winters... and trust me with quebec snow.. u need winter tires... even toronto gets crazy
10-16-06, 05:04 AM
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10-16-06, 08:28 AM
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amnon,
I live in New England and the GX has handle every snow and ice storm so far, It has one of the best 4WD system I have ever driven on. Did your GX come with Cross Terrains? Those tires are very good in the snow. If I were you, I would try using those tires for the 1st year, use your 4WD lock if you have to. Chances are, you will not need snow tires.
I live in New England and the GX has handle every snow and ice storm so far, It has one of the best 4WD system I have ever driven on. Did your GX come with Cross Terrains? Those tires are very good in the snow. If I were you, I would try using those tires for the 1st year, use your 4WD lock if you have to. Chances are, you will not need snow tires.
10-17-06, 12:47 PM
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CV i meant Stock Rims Back on... with prolly blizzak or the new goodyear Winter tires..not the stock tires.
u know CV.. last winters i was driving on a local street (leslie st) in toronto right after the storm.. i mean storm was in the day time and i was driving in the evening behind another White GX 470. And all of sudden The gX is front in front of me slipped and turned facing me on the other side of the road... at first i thought the driver was pulling a stunt but then i turned around and stopped beside him and asked him what happened and he told me the car just slipped .. i thought that was wierd for a car like this with so many gadgets slip so easily (it slipped like it slips in the canadian intro ad let it snow - youtube it) luckily for him nothing was coming from the other side. I don't remember what tires he had but he def had stocks on...
following service i mentioned it to my service advisor.. n he told me that even though the GX 470 is a 4 wheel drive it drives with R60-F40 split which drives just like a RWD (which is notorious when it comes to snow)... The system should distribute power and give more power to front in case of friction loss but dint know why that wasn't the case for above...he also advised that one should get winter tires none the less. Better safe then Sorry. but i mean crossterrains are allweathertires which r GOOD in every season.. but getting winter tires for winter season (like eastern canada's snow) are the safest choice.
u know CV.. last winters i was driving on a local street (leslie st) in toronto right after the storm.. i mean storm was in the day time and i was driving in the evening behind another White GX 470. And all of sudden The gX is front in front of me slipped and turned facing me on the other side of the road... at first i thought the driver was pulling a stunt but then i turned around and stopped beside him and asked him what happened and he told me the car just slipped .. i thought that was wierd for a car like this with so many gadgets slip so easily (it slipped like it slips in the canadian intro ad let it snow - youtube it) luckily for him nothing was coming from the other side. I don't remember what tires he had but he def had stocks on...
following service i mentioned it to my service advisor.. n he told me that even though the GX 470 is a 4 wheel drive it drives with R60-F40 split which drives just like a RWD (which is notorious when it comes to snow)... The system should distribute power and give more power to front in case of friction loss but dint know why that wasn't the case for above...he also advised that one should get winter tires none the less. Better safe then Sorry. but i mean crossterrains are allweathertires which r GOOD in every season.. but getting winter tires for winter season (like eastern canada's snow) are the safest choice.
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following service i mentioned it to my service advisor.. n he told me that even though the GX 470 is a 4 wheel drive it drives with R60-F40 split which drives just like a RWD (which is notorious when it comes to snow)... The system should distribute power and give more power to front in case of friction loss but dint know why that wasn't the case for above...he also advised that one should get winter tires none the less. Better safe then Sorry.
ended up sliding into a snow bank, narrowly missing a tree and a telephone pole (we slotted right between them)... OTOH, as soon as you locked the differential, it was solid as a rock... noticeably better feel (not just lack of slip) as you drove through the snow... I actually find this AWD "snap" action worse than driving in my RWD-only BMW... I had less drama keeping it on the road in a snowstorm (All-Season tires) than the LR in AWD mode... of course, thats what the 4WD is for... 
BTW, I'm one of the unfortunate ones who got Dunlops on my GX... Will have to see how they handle the snow, they don't look very impressive to me...
10-18-06, 06:30 AM
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10-18-06, 06:33 AM
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CV i meant Stock Rims Back on... with prolly blizzak or the new goodyear Winter tires..not the stock tires.
u know CV.. last winters i was driving on a local street (leslie st) in toronto right after the storm.. i mean storm was in the day time and i was driving in the evening behind another White GX 470. And all of sudden The gX is front in front of me slipped and turned facing me on the other side of the road... at first i thought the driver was pulling a stunt but then i turned around and stopped beside him and asked him what happened and he told me the car just slipped .. i thought that was wierd for a car like this with so many gadgets slip so easily (it slipped like it slips in the canadian intro ad let it snow - youtube it) luckily for him nothing was coming from the other side. I don't remember what tires he had but he def had stocks on...
following service i mentioned it to my service advisor.. n he told me that even though the GX 470 is a 4 wheel drive it drives with R60-F40 split which drives just like a RWD (which is notorious when it comes to snow)... The system should distribute power and give more power to front in case of friction loss but dint know why that wasn't the case for above...he also advised that one should get winter tires none the less. Better safe then Sorry. but i mean crossterrains are allweathertires which r GOOD in every season.. but getting winter tires for winter season (like eastern canada's snow) are the safest choice.
u know CV.. last winters i was driving on a local street (leslie st) in toronto right after the storm.. i mean storm was in the day time and i was driving in the evening behind another White GX 470. And all of sudden The gX is front in front of me slipped and turned facing me on the other side of the road... at first i thought the driver was pulling a stunt but then i turned around and stopped beside him and asked him what happened and he told me the car just slipped .. i thought that was wierd for a car like this with so many gadgets slip so easily (it slipped like it slips in the canadian intro ad let it snow - youtube it) luckily for him nothing was coming from the other side. I don't remember what tires he had but he def had stocks on...
following service i mentioned it to my service advisor.. n he told me that even though the GX 470 is a 4 wheel drive it drives with R60-F40 split which drives just like a RWD (which is notorious when it comes to snow)... The system should distribute power and give more power to front in case of friction loss but dint know why that wasn't the case for above...he also advised that one should get winter tires none the less. Better safe then Sorry. but i mean crossterrains are allweathertires which r GOOD in every season.. but getting winter tires for winter season (like eastern canada's snow) are the safest choice.
That being said, I have never driven a Canadian winter, but I do drive a lot in the Ohio snow belt...Cleveland and etc.
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10-18-06, 07:13 AM
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Yes, driver error does have something to do with it, but some tires are just better than others in the snow. There are countless people on the 4runner forum complaining about those Dunlop Grand Trash in the snow or rain.
Some tires are better than others on ice as well, it depends on the compound they use. The Bridgestone Blizzak use a silica compound which helps on ice, I believe the Cross Terrains use some version of that silica compound as well.
Some tires are better than others on ice as well, it depends on the compound they use. The Bridgestone Blizzak use a silica compound which helps on ice, I believe the Cross Terrains use some version of that silica compound as well.
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10-18-06, 09:01 AM
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Yes, driver error does have something to do with it, but some tires are just better than others in the snow. There are countless people on the 4runner forum complaining about those Dunlop Grand Trash in the snow or rain.
Some tires are better than others on ice as well, it depends on the compound they use. The Bridgestone Blizzak use a silica compound which helps on ice, I believe the Cross Terrains use some version of that silica compound as well.
Some tires are better than others on ice as well, it depends on the compound they use. The Bridgestone Blizzak use a silica compound which helps on ice, I believe the Cross Terrains use some version of that silica compound as well.
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Ok, I don't know a whole lot about the center diff. lock and the AWD system, versus Low and High 4WD. If I press the center diff. lock button until the light comes on, will I need to put the GX into Low or High? Or could I leave in in the neutral (AWD) mode? If I can leave it in neutral, will this give me better control of the GX in the snow/ice? I live in North Idaho and we get a little bit of snow; I used to drive an Olds. Bravada with all season tires and would do fine. Although stopping was a bit tough at times on the ice.
10-18-06, 10:00 AM
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Ok, I don't know a whole lot about the center diff. lock and the AWD system, versus Low and High 4WD. If I press the center diff. lock button until the light comes on, will I need to put the GX into Low or High? Or could I leave in in the neutral (AWD) mode? If I can leave it in neutral, will this give me better control of the GX in the snow/ice? I live in North Idaho and we get a little bit of snow; I used to drive an Olds. Bravada with all season tires and would do fine. Although stopping was a bit tough at times on the ice.
If you lock the center differential while in High or Low, you are essentially turning off the 40/60 AWD mode and locking all the wheels into drive. They will all spin at the same rate even if they are off the ground. NEVER lock the differential when the pavement is dry unless you plan on just going straight. ONLY lock the differential if you are stuck. If you are going to lock without being stuck, make sure you are in the snow or the pavement is wet. If you try and turn the GX at a slow speed with the differential locked, it will be hard to move.
Hope this helps,
CV