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#77
BTW, MY GX does not require premium fuel. It rarely gets anything other than 87 octane. I've noticed zero difference in performance between filling up with 87 octane and 93 octane (premium). I will say however, that the engine runs much quieter on premium fuel. Zero difference Powerwise, or mpgwise.
Source: Mechanical Engineer BS, MS + 3-year owner of a GX470.
#78
After reading this entire thread, I didn't find any real solution to increase MPG. In my case, the average MPG dropped from 18 to 14 back in September and has been consistently that way since then. Instead of 330 miles that I used to get in a full tank, I started getting 250.
Couple of things that I did were to replace the gas cap and put in two bottles of Techron in back to back fillups. Neither of those helped.
However last week when I filled up, my car went 310 miles and around 16 mpg. So I figured that it may have to do with something that they mix in the gas during colder season. Someone mentioned here that they put more oxygen in it, so maybe thats what it is.
I noticed some people putting in upto 24 gallons?? I think the most I've ever put in mine is ~19 gallons with the needle at the E line and the computer showing about 24 miles to go. I've never seen a low fuel light come on so I thought that our cars don't have that.
I'm planning to change the air filter this weekend with OEM. Hopefully I'll find a writeup somewhere here and it is not too complicated.
Couple of things that I did were to replace the gas cap and put in two bottles of Techron in back to back fillups. Neither of those helped.
However last week when I filled up, my car went 310 miles and around 16 mpg. So I figured that it may have to do with something that they mix in the gas during colder season. Someone mentioned here that they put more oxygen in it, so maybe thats what it is.
I noticed some people putting in upto 24 gallons?? I think the most I've ever put in mine is ~19 gallons with the needle at the E line and the computer showing about 24 miles to go. I've never seen a low fuel light come on so I thought that our cars don't have that.
I'm planning to change the air filter this weekend with OEM. Hopefully I'll find a writeup somewhere here and it is not too complicated.
Fuel quality has an enormous impact on GX mpg.
Find a gas station with non-ethanol fuel and you'll soon see your range hit the 400's. I've seen it with 24.6 gal (from fully empty with zero range).
With regular 10% ethanol fuel I typically get 14mpg city wich it's hard to improve, as somehow it seems independent of how you drive it. Therefore in the city you might as well drive it hard, or as you wish, and you wont notice a significant difference. In highway however, it's totally dependent on how fast you go. If you drive at about 55-65mph highway, you'll see your mpg go to the 20's (and it really does, calculator in hand). If however you opt to drive at 70-80, your mpg will drop to 17-18. If u accelerate and hit 90-100+ a couple of times in your trip, you wont see a difference. If you do 80-90 mpg consistently, you'll see 16-17 mpg.
I remember from a thermodynamics course in mechanical engineering that engines function more efficiently at higher rpm. More efficiently does not mean that they'll use less fuel. It just means that they convert the fuel to power "better". I don't exactly remember the theory behind this, but that may explain these trends in fuel economy in the GX.
Source: 3-year (and current) owner of a GX
Last edited by oardila99; 04-01-13 at 06:27 AM.
#79
I've owned a GX for 3 years and you can put 24.6 gal. See other reply i just wrote.
Fuel quality has an enormous impact on GX mpg.
Find a gas station with non-ethanol fuel and you'll soon see your range hit the 400's. I've seen it with 24.6 gal (from fully empty with zero range).
With regular 10% ethanol fuel I typically get 14mpg city wich it's hard to improve, as somehow it seems independent of how you drive it. Therefore in the city you might as well drive it hard, or as you wish, and you wont notice a significant difference. In highway however, it's totally dependent on how fast you go. If you drive at about 55-65mph highway, you'll see your mpg go to the 20's (and it really does, calculator in hand). If however you opt to drive at 70-80, your mpg will drop to 17-18. If u accelerate and hit 90-100+ a couple of times in your trip, you wont see a difference. If you do 80-90 mpg consistently, you'll see 16-17 mpg.
I remember from a thermodynamics course in mechanical engineering that engines function more efficiently at higher rpm. More efficiently does not mean that they'll use less fuel. It just means that they convert the fuel to power "better". I don't exactly remember the theory behind this, but that may explain these trends in fuel economy in the GX.
Source: 3-year (and current) owner of a GX
Fuel quality has an enormous impact on GX mpg.
Find a gas station with non-ethanol fuel and you'll soon see your range hit the 400's. I've seen it with 24.6 gal (from fully empty with zero range).
With regular 10% ethanol fuel I typically get 14mpg city wich it's hard to improve, as somehow it seems independent of how you drive it. Therefore in the city you might as well drive it hard, or as you wish, and you wont notice a significant difference. In highway however, it's totally dependent on how fast you go. If you drive at about 55-65mph highway, you'll see your mpg go to the 20's (and it really does, calculator in hand). If however you opt to drive at 70-80, your mpg will drop to 17-18. If u accelerate and hit 90-100+ a couple of times in your trip, you wont see a difference. If you do 80-90 mpg consistently, you'll see 16-17 mpg.
I remember from a thermodynamics course in mechanical engineering that engines function more efficiently at higher rpm. More efficiently does not mean that they'll use less fuel. It just means that they convert the fuel to power "better". I don't exactly remember the theory behind this, but that may explain these trends in fuel economy in the GX.
Source: 3-year (and current) owner of a GX
Where do you live that they still sell it like this?
#80
On another note, I got 16.7mpg on a highway trip this weekend, the best tank since we picked our GX up a few month ago! Cruise set at 110km/h, and about 60km city driving. I have yet to do any maintenance on the truck, should be ordering a new air filter this week, along with crush washers for the diffs/TC so I can get those fluids swapped out.
#81
You can find a source of ethanol free gas in your area from here http://pure-gas.org/
The closest one to me is over 100 miles away
The closest one to me is over 100 miles away
#82
You can find a source of ethanol free gas in your area from here http://pure-gas.org/
The closest one to me is over 100 miles away
The closest one to me is over 100 miles away
#88
Correct. Mine does too. Fuel economy improves significantly with real gas. Although filling up with real gas is financially neutral (better fuel economy but more expensive gas: evens out) I like the benefit of the extended range. Unfortunately it's nearly impossible to find in Orlando FL.
#89
For those interested, there is one gas station in Dtown Orlando and one in east Orlando that sell non-ethanol fuel. I am never close to them when my tank is empty, but at least it's good to know where they are. They can be googled.
Cheers.
#90
Correct. Mine does too. Fuel economy improves significantly with real gas. Although filling up with real gas is financially neutral (better fuel economy but more expensive gas: evens out) I like the benefit of the extended range. Unfortunately it's nearly impossible to find in Orlando FL.
Yeah, We got 1 mpg better on non ethanol which wasnt enough to justify spending the extra 40 cents a gallon. Our ethanol mpg was 15-15.5 and it would have had to get 17+ mpg for it to pay off....which i did not.
But then again, I am carrying around an extra 1000lbs of armor, recovery gear, and tires which dropped our mpg from 18 to 15 to begin with. Eh.....oh well. Its not that big enough of a mpg gallon jump or drop to overly concern yourself with it all.
Just drive your GX and enjoy it!!!