Air Suspension Problems or Questions
#542
I was able to locate a section of the service manual that contains the resistances and testing procedure for the solenoids, so I plan to take a crack at that next week.
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hibby50 (06-06-24)
#544
Just a brief(-ish) update from me, below is the page I am using to test the solenoids and a description of the circuit. I ended up deciding not to remove the tank from the car, and to test it in place since the connector was easily accessible. It seems my gate solenoid (which controls the flow between left and right bags) is indeed stuck!! I got 11 ohm resistance between 2-3 (leveling solenoid) and 19 ohm from 1-2 (gate solenoid) however applying 12v from a 12v power supply produced a click from 2-3 and silence from 1-2. Checked my connection 3 times.
Now I just need to figure out how to unstick it.... any suggestions/help would be appreciated.
Side note: of course I end up with the most obscure failure in the system :/ hopefully this info can help someone else in the future.
Now I just need to figure out how to unstick it.... any suggestions/help would be appreciated.
Side note: of course I end up with the most obscure failure in the system :/ hopefully this info can help someone else in the future.
#545
Hi Chip, which coils are you referring to and where are you suggesting looking for debris? There seems to be limited info about solenoids online :/
I was able to locate a section of the service manual that contains the resistances and testing procedure for the solenoids, so I plan to take a crack at that next week.
I was able to locate a section of the service manual that contains the resistances and testing procedure for the solenoids, so I plan to take a crack at that next week.
#546
I ended up giving the solenoid 12v and tapping it with a vice grip and it unstuck, though it did get stuck again later, and all my issues are still present (uneven height, leaks down overnight, will not exhaust air and lower)
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Lexus4321 (06-24-24)
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MidniteGX (06-17-24)
#548
I am happy to report my rear is level again! The fix was to disassemble the reservoir and clean it. My gate solenoid kept getting stuck even after unsticking it, and I suspect airflow was impeded as well.
Before disassembly I hooked up techstream, and I was able to toggle every solenoid and hear them click (with the gate occasionally sticking), and see the height sensors were reading sane values. I adjusted the height sensors to be equal while the car was on bump stops.
There are 2 10mm bolts holding the solenoid assembly to the reservoir. I suggest applying 12v to open the reservoir solenoid and letting the air out before removing. There is an o ring between them so pull out the solenoid assembly carefully. Next there are 4 hex bolts I removed to separate the plastic air channels from the solenoids. There is one o ring per solenoid between the plates. These are also on springs so be careful everything doesn't fall out when you separate the plates. I cleaned each solenoid plunger with a wire brush and brake clean. I checked the springs and sprayed some silicone lube in each hole. On the plastic side I used a sim card removal tool to clean out the tiny holes, MAF cleaner, and compressed air.
Here are some pics of it disassembled.
I still need to track down my leak, and my compressor's exhaust valve is intermittently sticking, but those should be a walk in the park compared to this *knock on wood*
Before disassembly I hooked up techstream, and I was able to toggle every solenoid and hear them click (with the gate occasionally sticking), and see the height sensors were reading sane values. I adjusted the height sensors to be equal while the car was on bump stops.
There are 2 10mm bolts holding the solenoid assembly to the reservoir. I suggest applying 12v to open the reservoir solenoid and letting the air out before removing. There is an o ring between them so pull out the solenoid assembly carefully. Next there are 4 hex bolts I removed to separate the plastic air channels from the solenoids. There is one o ring per solenoid between the plates. These are also on springs so be careful everything doesn't fall out when you separate the plates. I cleaned each solenoid plunger with a wire brush and brake clean. I checked the springs and sprayed some silicone lube in each hole. On the plastic side I used a sim card removal tool to clean out the tiny holes, MAF cleaner, and compressed air.
Here are some pics of it disassembled.
I still need to track down my leak, and my compressor's exhaust valve is intermittently sticking, but those should be a walk in the park compared to this *knock on wood*
Last edited by hibby50; 06-14-24 at 06:32 AM.
#550
Question about air suspension operation
Hello. Thanks for the informative thread. I'm doing some work on my GX470 air suspension as well. I Have a question that's related to some of the recent posts in this thread, that I haven't seen addressed in the many threads I've read. I'm wondering about some specifics of the air suspension operation i don't seem to see in the FSM. My GX leans to the passenger side. To address this I've tried adjusting the height sensor linkage to a different position on the right side than the position of the linkage on the left side, hoping this would bring the right side to the same level as the left. It didn't seem to have this effect. Can the system direct the gate solenoid to deliver more air to one spring to level the vehicle from side to side? Could you intentionally cause a lean to one side by adjusting one sensor to a considerably different position than the sensor on the other side? If so, I'd think this would be an ideal solution to the KDSS lean that many GX's have. I'm just generally wondering what logic the system operates on. I'd appreciate any enlightenment on the matter. Thanks much.
#551
. To address this I've tried adjusting the height sensor linkage to a different position on the right side than the position of the linkage on the left side, hoping this would bring the right side to the same level as the left. It didn't seem to have this effect. Can the system direct the gate solenoid to deliver more air to one spring to level the vehicle from side to side? Thanks much.
#553
Application:
Compatible with Lexus ES330 2004-2006 V6 3.3L Sedan
Compatible with Lexus ES300 2001-2003 V6 3.0L Sedan
Compatible with Lexus IS300 2001-2005 V6 3.0L Wagon/Sedan Front; Rear
Compatible with Lexus RX330 2004-2006 V6 3.3L Sport Utility Rear Right AWD
Compatible with Lexus RX330 2004-2006 V6 3.3L Sport Utility Rear FWD
Compatible with Lexus RX350 2007-2008 V6 3.5L Sport Utility Rear Right AWD
Compatible with Lexus RX350 2007-2008 V6 3.5L Sport Utility Rear FWD
Compatible with Lexus RX400h 2006-2008 V6 3.3L Sport Utility
Compatible with Toyota Tacoma 2005-2008 L4 2.7L Pickup
Compatible with Toyota Tacoma 2005-2008 V6 4.0L Pickup
Compatible with Toyota Prius 2004-2009 L4 1.5L Hatchback
Compatible with Mazda RX-8 2004-2008 R2 1.3L Coupe Front; Rear
OEM Number: 89405-48020, 89406-53010, 89407-48010, 89407-48030,89408-47010, 924-755
#554
i could be wrong, but this is my interpretation and understanding.
#555
I disagree with this. If you read the descriptions from the service manual i posted a few posts up, I do not believe the system is able to send air to a specific bag. While filling i opens the gate solenoid, which allows air to flow between the 2 bags. There is not a solenoid for the left and right bags.
i could be wrong, but this is my interpretation and understanding.
i could be wrong, but this is my interpretation and understanding.
I too could be wrong. If it's not independent then why are there two height sensors?