Help, please, can't start the truck
#1
Help, please, can't start the truck
I have 02 LS430 and 04 GX470. This morning, my wife accidently took the LS key and try to start the GX, after realize it is the wrong key, she went back to tak the GX key. , well It was not working anymore.
I can't insert the key in the ignition, but can't turn on at all. I am wondering if anybody knows about this. Do I have to town the truck to Lexus ? will any lock smith can do reprogram this? I am assuming that is the proble.
very appreicate for any input. Thanks Guys.
I can't insert the key in the ignition, but can't turn on at all. I am wondering if anybody knows about this. Do I have to town the truck to Lexus ? will any lock smith can do reprogram this? I am assuming that is the proble.
very appreicate for any input. Thanks Guys.
#3
Yes, I tried to use the right key to start later on. I only have one key for the LS430, and one key for the GX470. My wife took the LS430 and went to work, so I only have one key left. I can use the remote to lock and unlock the truck, just can't turn it.
#4
My guess is she jammed a few of bits of the lock mechanism trying to get the key inserted or turned. They might come loose with some graphite and a little gentle persuasion.
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Put the key in, pull left on the steering wheel and try and turn the key, then try pulling right on the wheel and turning the key. You may have tension against the ignition lock. Obviously, step on the brake pedal too!
Last edited by Ancient; 08-15-12 at 06:43 AM.
#11
Guys, thanks so much for all the great input. Just before I was ready to give up. Gonna call the towing and get it to the dealer, then I thought I gonna try one last thing, so i went to bought some graphite grease(thanks Stiles_s),and put into the ignition. After couple try, I gotta it work. woo, what a feeling. $4 fixed Hundreds of dollor proble( according to dealer when I called them yesterday, dealer advise they will need to open up the tumbler and check the whole thing, maybe change the ignitions and new keys) .
anyway, saved some money, and i am ready to go ahead.
Thanks again for everybody who is trying to help. Great advise from everybody.
anyway, saved some money, and i am ready to go ahead.
Thanks again for everybody who is trying to help. Great advise from everybody.
#12
Guys, thanks so much for all the great input. Just before I was ready to give up. Gonna call the towing and get it to the dealer, then I thought I gonna try one last thing, so i went to bought some graphite grease(thanks Stiles_s),and put into the ignition. After couple try, I gotta it work. woo, what a feeling. $4 fixed Hundreds of dollor proble( according to dealer when I called them yesterday, dealer advise they will need to open up the tumbler and check the whole thing, maybe change the ignitions and new keys) .
anyway, saved some money, and i am ready to go ahead.
Thanks again for everybody who is trying to help. Great advise from everybody.
anyway, saved some money, and i am ready to go ahead.
Thanks again for everybody who is trying to help. Great advise from everybody.
I have a feeling the LS430 key might of been the 'catalyst', since it's obviously keyed differently for the lock, to cause the tumbler to finally lock up.
Cheers,
Kermee
#13
I also posted the same thread on the LS430 forms, and got some more input, below are posted by " Locksmithy"
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Though this situation is described as satisfactory, please allow me to STRONGLY urge NOT to use lubricants containing graphite or Teflon, nor dry graphite in most any lock.
Mfr used a lithium paste grease, or equivalent. Introduction of graphite will GENERALLY create caking in the lock, and thus a malfunction.
IF there is sticking, it is because of either wear on the key, wear in the lock, or a lock wafer or wafer slot deformation. The repair is to service the lock.
So, even though in this situation, the sticky lock wafer happened to loosen up an work, this use of graphite will USUALLY only worsen a situation.
I have an ES300 2002 that the lock is jammed up in front of my service center right now. The graphite client put in did not cause a problem with the old worn keys, but once a fresh key that was not all worn down was used, no keys now work. We are doing an entire tear down under the dash. just to get the lock out, to service. Not Pretty.
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hope this will help , even I don't know if I should do anything else now.
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Though this situation is described as satisfactory, please allow me to STRONGLY urge NOT to use lubricants containing graphite or Teflon, nor dry graphite in most any lock.
Mfr used a lithium paste grease, or equivalent. Introduction of graphite will GENERALLY create caking in the lock, and thus a malfunction.
IF there is sticking, it is because of either wear on the key, wear in the lock, or a lock wafer or wafer slot deformation. The repair is to service the lock.
So, even though in this situation, the sticky lock wafer happened to loosen up an work, this use of graphite will USUALLY only worsen a situation.
I have an ES300 2002 that the lock is jammed up in front of my service center right now. The graphite client put in did not cause a problem with the old worn keys, but once a fresh key that was not all worn down was used, no keys now work. We are doing an entire tear down under the dash. just to get the lock out, to service. Not Pretty.
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hope this will help , even I don't know if I should do anything else now.
#15
You probably have four Issues from What I see.
Firstly this may be a **** question, Is your Key an Original Lexus Key. To know that there are Codes imprinted on the Key shell and the transponder chip inside. Do you have the Master key also called as the Valet Key. That would be the best bet to reset the lock as GX Engine ECU has detected a wrong key and immediately encrypts the Engine for theft deterrence.
1. First issue would be the Key itself as the unmatched key has locked the codes. ( Question do you have a Nav unit or Non Nav GX.
2. The Key Transponder Amp is fried. Possibility the key coil itself)
3. The Transponder Key ECU could have failed.
4. There is Unlock warning Switch assy below the steering column ( could have fried)
This is just a possibility one among the above.
Now if you have the Master Key I can give you the instruction to re-progam the key code into the ECU via the Nav unit, It is quite easy. But you need to know the codes.
Firstly this may be a **** question, Is your Key an Original Lexus Key. To know that there are Codes imprinted on the Key shell and the transponder chip inside. Do you have the Master key also called as the Valet Key. That would be the best bet to reset the lock as GX Engine ECU has detected a wrong key and immediately encrypts the Engine for theft deterrence.
1. First issue would be the Key itself as the unmatched key has locked the codes. ( Question do you have a Nav unit or Non Nav GX.
2. The Key Transponder Amp is fried. Possibility the key coil itself)
3. The Transponder Key ECU could have failed.
4. There is Unlock warning Switch assy below the steering column ( could have fried)
This is just a possibility one among the above.
Now if you have the Master Key I can give you the instruction to re-progam the key code into the ECU via the Nav unit, It is quite easy. But you need to know the codes.