New Owner control arm
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Hello,
I have been looking around for a used 4Runner/GX and finally got a 2006 GX for 8k with 145k miles on it.
I had to do a lot of maintenance to get it up to current
1) Timing Belt & water pump replaced (Tuffy's)
2) Radiator & thermostat replaced (Tuffy's), along with differential, transmission and coolant (included with the radiator)
3) Spark plugs, Airfilter, Front end (brake pads, calipers, rotors, Brake fluid flush -- self)
4) Front wheel bearings (Blue pit, self)
Took the vehicle to Belle tire (Live in Metro Detroit) for a front end alignment, was told that the front lower control arm is loose and has to be replaced (was quoted 1200 for the passenger front). The part @ rockauto is 160 and thought should not be that bad (Saw some videos on other car models), so ventured into fixing this.
I searched the forum and the internet, I could not find a good video/instructions regarding the control arm replacement, can one of you fine folks point me in the right direction here (write up/video/specs etc.,), also on the torque spec (I found a document in one of the forum, but not sure whether that includes control arm)
Also does anyone know a trusted Toyota mechanic around metro Detroit? I took the vehicle to the Toyota dealership there were not willing to do the service on a lexus (Timing belt and water pump). Lexus dealership is a true stealership, quoted me 1200 for timing belt, when asked about water pump he said 289 for the part and installation is free, I pointed out that the water pump is included in the kit he quoted, he said he will get back to me later, never did.
Took the vehicle to another dealership (an hour drive) for the driveshaft, was quoted 550 for the front even though I asked about the TSB, then was quoted 1500 for the rear, ran away from them.
Any pointers on this regard would be helpful.
Thank you
I have been looking around for a used 4Runner/GX and finally got a 2006 GX for 8k with 145k miles on it.
I had to do a lot of maintenance to get it up to current
1) Timing Belt & water pump replaced (Tuffy's)
2) Radiator & thermostat replaced (Tuffy's), along with differential, transmission and coolant (included with the radiator)
3) Spark plugs, Airfilter, Front end (brake pads, calipers, rotors, Brake fluid flush -- self)
4) Front wheel bearings (Blue pit, self)
Took the vehicle to Belle tire (Live in Metro Detroit) for a front end alignment, was told that the front lower control arm is loose and has to be replaced (was quoted 1200 for the passenger front). The part @ rockauto is 160 and thought should not be that bad (Saw some videos on other car models), so ventured into fixing this.
I searched the forum and the internet, I could not find a good video/instructions regarding the control arm replacement, can one of you fine folks point me in the right direction here (write up/video/specs etc.,), also on the torque spec (I found a document in one of the forum, but not sure whether that includes control arm)
Also does anyone know a trusted Toyota mechanic around metro Detroit? I took the vehicle to the Toyota dealership there were not willing to do the service on a lexus (Timing belt and water pump). Lexus dealership is a true stealership, quoted me 1200 for timing belt, when asked about water pump he said 289 for the part and installation is free, I pointed out that the water pump is included in the kit he quoted, he said he will get back to me later, never did.
Took the vehicle to another dealership (an hour drive) for the driveshaft, was quoted 550 for the front even though I asked about the TSB, then was quoted 1500 for the rear, ran away from them.
Any pointers on this regard would be helpful.
Thank you
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Can't help with a Detroit mechanic. But a TSB is not an extended warranty - it's just a document they send to their service techs telling them how to handle certain frequent problems they may find. Find a good local 4WD shop for the prop shaft. It's easy to replace, and the part is about $700-800.
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Be weary of cheap aftermarket control arms. The bushings suck in them, and won’t last near as long as OEM. My truck had one new aftermarket lower control arm in it when I bought it, 40k later the bushings were junk. I replaced both control arms myself with Lexus OEM for about $260/side. Also, that rear driveshaft is way overpriced, you can find a brand new OEM driveshaft on line for around $280. Also, any 09-current GX460 shaft will work as well, and is the updated design. If you have KDSS, your front lower control arms are considerably more expensive when going OEM though.
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Be weary of cheap aftermarket control arms. The bushings suck in them, and won’t last near as long as OEM. My truck had one new aftermarket lower control arm in it when I bought it, 40k later the bushings were junk. I replaced both control arms myself with Lexus OEM for about $260/side. Also, that rear driveshaft is way overpriced, you can find a brand new OEM driveshaft on line for around $280. Also, any 09-current GX460 shaft will work as well, and is the updated design. If you have KDSS, your front lower control arms are considerably more expensive when going OEM though.
How good do you think moog greasable camber bolt kit is
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no idea, the passenger side on mine was seized, I bought all new OEM stuff thru Lexus when I did my control arms. I antiseized the crap out of all the bushing sleeves before I did it. I’m in AZ, so I don’t need to worry about winter or road salt.
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I tried using heat, hammer impact wrench, nothing budged, oh alsp a good long breaker bar. Nothing moved that thing, the only thing I did nkt do is saw through the bushings (do not have a lift)
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mine came out with heat and an air hammer.
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Be weary of cheap aftermarket control arms. The bushings suck in them, and won’t last near as long as OEM. My truck had one new aftermarket lower control arm in it when I bought it, 40k later the bushings were junk. I replaced both control arms myself with Lexus OEM for about $260/side. Also, that rear driveshaft is way overpriced, you can find a brand new OEM driveshaft on line for around $280. Also, any 09-current GX460 shaft will work as well, and is the updated design. If you have KDSS, your front lower control arms are considerably more expensive when going OEM though.
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i run total Chaos uppers. Their benefit is strength, uniball ball joints for additional flex, and additional caster correction for lifted trucks. If you’re at stock height, there’s no need. If you’re lifted 2” or less, there’s really no need.
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When lifted always go with aftermarket arms. The original arms are only good for OEM spec height.. +/- 1.5 inches.
Ive been reading up that a LOT of people have issues removing the arms due to seized cam bolts. :/ Makes me worried.
To rebuild the lower control arm you will need the lower ball joints + set of bushings. You can go polyurethane bushings for not too much $$ if you really wanted or get OEM for like $90. The balljoints can be had for $25-35 from Rockauto.
The problem about rebuilding is how much work itll take to press out the balljoint and bushings. Not sure what the underside of the cars look like in MI but if its rusted.. best bet is to just replace with new arms instead of rebuilding due to difficulty of pressing out things.
Ive been reading up that a LOT of people have issues removing the arms due to seized cam bolts. :/ Makes me worried.
To rebuild the lower control arm you will need the lower ball joints + set of bushings. You can go polyurethane bushings for not too much $$ if you really wanted or get OEM for like $90. The balljoints can be had for $25-35 from Rockauto.
The problem about rebuilding is how much work itll take to press out the balljoint and bushings. Not sure what the underside of the cars look like in MI but if its rusted.. best bet is to just replace with new arms instead of rebuilding due to difficulty of pressing out things.
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My camber bolt is seized so bad, i could not get it out with the air hammer or a hammer. Gave it to a shop, they are cutting through the bushings, they are down 6 blades and half way through the bushing, this is getting too pricey and hard :-(
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