Just purchased GX470 - Needed suspension recommendation
#16
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Springs, shocks, and rear coil conversion kit are all that's required for a lift. If your truck is rusty underneath, you'll want to have swaybar endlinks on hand, as they often need to be cut off. If you're rusty underneath, you might also have issues with the alignment hardware, I had to replace all of mine, and did new LCA's and UCA's at the same time.
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#18
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From the owners manual:
“HI” (high) mode: The vehicle height is about 40 mm (1.6 in.) higher at the rear than the “N” mode height. This mode is suitable when driving on the bumpy roads and through water. However, when the vehicle speed exceeds about 30 km/h (19 mph) or over in the “HI” mode, the “N” mode is automatically selected. CAUTION The “HI” mode should be used for severe off-road driving condition only. As the vehicle’s center of gravity is higher in this setting, the vehicle may become unstable when turning abruptly resulting in accident.
“LO” (low) mode: The vehicle height is about 20 mm (0.8 in.) lower at the rear than the “N” mode height. This mode allows you easy access to the vehicle (getting in and out) and easy loading and unloading operation. This mode is available when the vehicle speed is under about 12 km/h (7 mph).
“HI” (high) mode: The vehicle height is about 40 mm (1.6 in.) higher at the rear than the “N” mode height. This mode is suitable when driving on the bumpy roads and through water. However, when the vehicle speed exceeds about 30 km/h (19 mph) or over in the “HI” mode, the “N” mode is automatically selected. CAUTION The “HI” mode should be used for severe off-road driving condition only. As the vehicle’s center of gravity is higher in this setting, the vehicle may become unstable when turning abruptly resulting in accident.
“LO” (low) mode: The vehicle height is about 20 mm (0.8 in.) lower at the rear than the “N” mode height. This mode allows you easy access to the vehicle (getting in and out) and easy loading and unloading operation. This mode is available when the vehicle speed is under about 12 km/h (7 mph).
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From the owners manual:
“HI” (high) mode: The vehicle height is about 40 mm (1.6 in.) higher at the rear than the “N” mode height. This mode is suitable when driving on the bumpy roads and through water. However, when the vehicle speed exceeds about 30 km/h (19 mph) or over in the “HI” mode, the “N” mode is automatically selected. CAUTION The “HI” mode should be used for severe off-road driving condition only. As the vehicle’s center of gravity is higher in this setting, the vehicle may become unstable when turning abruptly resulting in accident.
“LO” (low) mode: The vehicle height is about 20 mm (0.8 in.) lower at the rear than the “N” mode height. This mode allows you easy access to the vehicle (getting in and out) and easy loading and unloading operation. This mode is available when the vehicle speed is under about 12 km/h (7 mph).
“HI” (high) mode: The vehicle height is about 40 mm (1.6 in.) higher at the rear than the “N” mode height. This mode is suitable when driving on the bumpy roads and through water. However, when the vehicle speed exceeds about 30 km/h (19 mph) or over in the “HI” mode, the “N” mode is automatically selected. CAUTION The “HI” mode should be used for severe off-road driving condition only. As the vehicle’s center of gravity is higher in this setting, the vehicle may become unstable when turning abruptly resulting in accident.
“LO” (low) mode: The vehicle height is about 20 mm (0.8 in.) lower at the rear than the “N” mode height. This mode allows you easy access to the vehicle (getting in and out) and easy loading and unloading operation. This mode is available when the vehicle speed is under about 12 km/h (7 mph).
The "L" setting is interesting. My GX will often times release air after turning it off and driver and/or passenger(s) get out, and if you read the manual description for "L" it suggest that mode for "ez access and getting in & out", so I just thought the vehicle did a auto-"L" after turning off to make the vehicle a tad lower for easier access to rear and for "getting in and out", I thought this was a auto-kneeling feature. Nobody ever heard of this, so now it makes me wonder. Is my GX releasing air after vehicle is turned off and I get out because the height sensor sensed the rear got beyond the "N"(max) threshold so it releases air to get back into the "N" range?, but doing this with the vehicle off. I am not a heavy person
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Excellent info!
I spend almost 4 weeks reading entire forum threads but somehow missed that... LOL
Thanks for sharing!
I spend almost 4 weeks reading entire forum threads but somehow missed that... LOL
Thanks for sharing!
From the owners manual:
“HI” (high) mode: The vehicle height is about 40 mm (1.6 in.) higher at the rear than the “N” mode height. This mode is suitable when driving on the bumpy roads and through water. However, when the vehicle speed exceeds about 30 km/h (19 mph) or over in the “HI” mode, the “N” mode is automatically selected. CAUTION The “HI” mode should be used for severe off-road driving condition only. As the vehicle’s center of gravity is higher in this setting, the vehicle may become unstable when turning abruptly resulting in accident.
“LO” (low) mode: The vehicle height is about 20 mm (0.8 in.) lower at the rear than the “N” mode height. This mode allows you easy access to the vehicle (getting in and out) and easy loading and unloading operation. This mode is available when the vehicle speed is under about 12 km/h (7 mph).
“HI” (high) mode: The vehicle height is about 40 mm (1.6 in.) higher at the rear than the “N” mode height. This mode is suitable when driving on the bumpy roads and through water. However, when the vehicle speed exceeds about 30 km/h (19 mph) or over in the “HI” mode, the “N” mode is automatically selected. CAUTION The “HI” mode should be used for severe off-road driving condition only. As the vehicle’s center of gravity is higher in this setting, the vehicle may become unstable when turning abruptly resulting in accident.
“LO” (low) mode: The vehicle height is about 20 mm (0.8 in.) lower at the rear than the “N” mode height. This mode allows you easy access to the vehicle (getting in and out) and easy loading and unloading operation. This mode is available when the vehicle speed is under about 12 km/h (7 mph).
#21
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Springs, shocks, and rear coil conversion kit are all that's required for a lift. If your truck is rusty underneath, you'll want to have swaybar endlinks on hand, as they often need to be cut off. If you're rusty underneath, you might also have issues with the alignment hardware, I had to replace all of mine, and did new LCA's and UCA's at the same time.
#22
TY for the manual info. I just thought mine was around 5mph, but maybe I saw that from the "L" setting.
The "L" setting is interesting. My GX will often times release air after turning it off and driver and/or passenger(s) get out, and if you read the manual description for "L" it suggest that mode for "ez access and getting
in & out", so I just thought the vehicle did a auto-"L" after turning off to make the vehicle a tad lower for easier access to rear and for "getting in and out", I thought this was a auto-kneeling feature. Nobody ever heard of this, so now it makes me wonder. Is my GX releasing air after vehicle is turned off and I get out because the height sensor sensed the rear got beyond the "N"(max) threshold so it releases air to get back into the "N" range?, but doing this with the vehicle off. I am not a heavy person
The "L" setting is interesting. My GX will often times release air after turning it off and driver and/or passenger(s) get out, and if you read the manual description for "L" it suggest that mode for "ez access and getting
in & out", so I just thought the vehicle did a auto-"L" after turning off to make the vehicle a tad lower for easier access to rear and for "getting in and out", I thought this was a auto-kneeling feature. Nobody ever heard of this, so now it makes me wonder. Is my GX releasing air after vehicle is turned off and I get out because the height sensor sensed the rear got beyond the "N"(max) threshold so it releases air to get back into the "N" range?, but doing this with the vehicle off. I am not a heavy person
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chiph9 (09-30-20)
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Not sure it senses weight, there's just a height sensor. If I lift body from the hitch I don't get air release, etc.
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I also get the air release a few moments after getting out. My guess is that it stays powered up until the computer goes to low-power sleep.
Something I played around with the other day .. the HomeLink garage opener buttons have power even after the key is removed. But I didn't wait a long time to see if it also goes into sleep mode. This has implications if you park outside and someone breaks a window - they could then open your garage.
Chip H.
Something I played around with the other day .. the HomeLink garage opener buttons have power even after the key is removed. But I didn't wait a long time to see if it also goes into sleep mode. This has implications if you park outside and someone breaks a window - they could then open your garage.
Chip H.
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I also get the air release a few moments after getting out. My guess is that it stays powered up until the computer goes to low-power sleep.
Something I played around with the other day .. the HomeLink garage opener buttons have power even after the key is removed. But I didn't wait a long time to see if it also goes into sleep mode. This has implications if you park outside and someone breaks a window - they could then open your garage.
Chip H.
Something I played around with the other day .. the HomeLink garage opener buttons have power even after the key is removed. But I didn't wait a long time to see if it also goes into sleep mode. This has implications if you park outside and someone breaks a window - they could then open your garage.
Chip H.
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I also get the air release a few moments after getting out. My guess is that it stays powered up until the computer goes to low-power sleep.
Something I played around with the other day .. the HomeLink garage opener buttons have power even after the key is removed. But I didn't wait a long time to see if it also goes into sleep mode. This has implications if you park outside and someone breaks a window - they could then open your garage.
Chip H.
Something I played around with the other day .. the HomeLink garage opener buttons have power even after the key is removed. But I didn't wait a long time to see if it also goes into sleep mode. This has implications if you park outside and someone breaks a window - they could then open your garage.
Chip H.
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#30
Driver School Candidate
First of all... nice ride! I loved my GX.
The air suspension is really cool (when it works) but when mine started acting up I felt it was best to convert to coil springs and standard shocks.
Here is what I used:
1. Rear Coil Springs: (Installed myself)
* Used FJ Cruiser springs from a 2007 Spring Sub-Assembly Toyota Part # 48302-35040
* (2) MetalTech 4x4 DIY Rear Coil Conversion Kit
2. Rear Shocks: (Installed myself)
* KYB 344410 (2)
3. Front struts: (Shop)
* KYB SR4131 Strut-Plus Complete Assembly - Left
* KYB SR4130 Strut-Plus Complete Assembly - Right
4. Front end alignment (Shop)
5. Cover to replace the interior Ride Height switch on the center console:
* Toyota Part # 58839-60040
Note: The rear springs & shocks were pretty easy to do myself. After lifting the back end with a floor jack the springs were easy to put in. No compressor needed. The front struts (I purchased with new coils) were installed by the shop who did my alignment.
The ride with the new suspension is firmer but didn’t seem overly harsh. It softened up over time but I was ok with it from day one. There was not a noticeable rake and actually sat better than when it did with the air suspension.
The air suspension is really cool (when it works) but when mine started acting up I felt it was best to convert to coil springs and standard shocks.
Here is what I used:
1. Rear Coil Springs: (Installed myself)
* Used FJ Cruiser springs from a 2007 Spring Sub-Assembly Toyota Part # 48302-35040
* (2) MetalTech 4x4 DIY Rear Coil Conversion Kit
2. Rear Shocks: (Installed myself)
* KYB 344410 (2)
3. Front struts: (Shop)
* KYB SR4131 Strut-Plus Complete Assembly - Left
* KYB SR4130 Strut-Plus Complete Assembly - Right
4. Front end alignment (Shop)
5. Cover to replace the interior Ride Height switch on the center console:
* Toyota Part # 58839-60040
Note: The rear springs & shocks were pretty easy to do myself. After lifting the back end with a floor jack the springs were easy to put in. No compressor needed. The front struts (I purchased with new coils) were installed by the shop who did my alignment.
The ride with the new suspension is firmer but didn’t seem overly harsh. It softened up over time but I was ok with it from day one. There was not a noticeable rake and actually sat better than when it did with the air suspension.