Forerunner V8 Limited vs. GS470??
06-14-05, 03:11 PM
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The resurection of debate.
What do you do with a slow forum... Quick, someone get on the horn to the year 2004 and let these guys know that this thread is alive. Lot of heated debate. I'm goign to get my popcorn and watch while the forum moderator tries to shut down the banter... I sure hope all the olod participants have been properly notified so that this doesn't end like a recent Tyson match....1/2-way through!
06-14-05, 06:26 PM
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I looked at the 4Runner and liked it a lot. But the headliner was so low it brushed aginst my hair, same problem I had with our Subaru Outback. The GX470 has another 2" of head room, still not as much head room as my Dodge Ram but much better for me than the 4Runner.
06-14-05, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EDGE2
brent
all very good points but like I said I want performance, rain-sensing wipers are nice but if you get in a car and can't work the wipers get off the road, headlights are headlight long as you can see the road and I've actually read reviews on the ES that the projector headlights have a better field/view and don't have a cut off like the zenons and the 4x4 shift level of course a 4x4 mag is gonna like it, anything with a shift **** and a 4low is a plus in their book but I thought the the shift **** should have been in the 4Runner, anything upscale or considered luxury has a 4x4 dial.
Can't dispute the ML sound system, hell I would buy it cause Im not putting in aftermarket anything, I got the 10 speaker JBL.
In my opinion the GX does not have enough to get me as a buyer, maybe if I was not so hung up on cars it would not matter but if Im gonna spend 50k+ Im getting an LX470 with a TRD SC, or something German, I like options and the words fully loaded but now the GX does nothin for me, maybe in a few years, if Lexus sold GX's with TRD SC then sure why not.
Lexus does not seem to be having a problem selling the GX, at least here the dealer has 15 in stock that are sold a day after coming off the truck
I would perfer my Toy dealer to offer better customer service they do offer loaner cars but I don't take my truck in for dealer recommended service
I take it to lexus
funny seeing a 4Runner among all the Lexus vehicles Lexus actually called me and asked why I would not take it to Toyota and I told them, their cool and charge the same Toyota would
Anyways Lexus and Toyota have a bright future ahead of them putting Ford out of business, I look forward to the next gen GS and an M5 fighter even an M3 fighter
all very good points but like I said I want performance, rain-sensing wipers are nice but if you get in a car and can't work the wipers get off the road, headlights are headlight long as you can see the road and I've actually read reviews on the ES that the projector headlights have a better field/view and don't have a cut off like the zenons and the 4x4 shift level of course a 4x4 mag is gonna like it, anything with a shift **** and a 4low is a plus in their book but I thought the the shift **** should have been in the 4Runner, anything upscale or considered luxury has a 4x4 dial.
Can't dispute the ML sound system, hell I would buy it cause Im not putting in aftermarket anything, I got the 10 speaker JBL.
In my opinion the GX does not have enough to get me as a buyer, maybe if I was not so hung up on cars it would not matter but if Im gonna spend 50k+ Im getting an LX470 with a TRD SC, or something German, I like options and the words fully loaded but now the GX does nothin for me, maybe in a few years, if Lexus sold GX's with TRD SC then sure why not.
Lexus does not seem to be having a problem selling the GX, at least here the dealer has 15 in stock that are sold a day after coming off the truck
I would perfer my Toy dealer to offer better customer service they do offer loaner cars but I don't take my truck in for dealer recommended service I take it to lexus funny seeing a 4Runner among all the Lexus vehicles Lexus actually called me and asked why I would not take it to Toyota and I told them, their cool and charge the same Toyota would Anyways Lexus and Toyota have a bright future ahead of them putting Ford out of business, I look forward to the next gen GS and an M5 fighter even an M3 fighter
06-15-05, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jayson
I saw a man in the in the Lexus if Austin lounge room last week bring in his 2005 Avalon. I asked him why he brought it to a Lexus dealer and he said that his wife has an SC and his daughter has an RX in college and that his service writer gets him a loaner even for his Toyota! That's customer service!
06-20-05, 01:12 PM
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Why Even ask this question...
Originally Posted by pdonnell
Just out of curiosity but what are the compelling advantages to buying a GS470 for thousands more than a loaded Forerunner Limited V8 with DVD Navigation to boot?
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Only discernable advantage is the GS470 has air suspension and wood veneer appointments but cost is $5000-$9000 more than a Forerunner Limited V8 with DVD Navi, leather, moonroof, air bags etc. But otherwise have identical measurements, motor, gearbox and other spec's.
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Any tips would be appreciated.
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Only discernable advantage is the GS470 has air suspension and wood veneer appointments but cost is $5000-$9000 more than a Forerunner Limited V8 with DVD Navi, leather, moonroof, air bags etc. But otherwise have identical measurements, motor, gearbox and other spec's.
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Any tips would be appreciated.
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06-20-05, 03:12 PM
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Well said Advocate
Nicely put Advocate!
Call me shallow but I am a doctor in Las Vegas and when I go to dinner with other doctors and professionals I cannot show up in a Toyota 4Runner. That would hurt my business or give the perception that I have not been successful. My patients want to see me in a name brand vehicle because they relate that as having a successful practice. So if your life style allows you to drive a 4Runner do it.
Lexus, BMW , Mercedes all equate to success or the perception of success that is why these nameplates exist and do so well.
Toyota equates to reliability at a good value. Nothing wrong with that, just not the image I need or want at this stage in my life. It was ok when I was just getting out of college or starting my practice but not now.
Another thing I want to know is why would you come into the Lexus forums and ask Lexus owners why we would not buy a Toyota? That would be as silly as one of us going to the Toyota 4 Runner forums and asking them why they did not buy the Lexus. Different budgets, different lifestyles.
Sorry for the typing errors Im a doctor not an english major.
Call me shallow but I am a doctor in Las Vegas and when I go to dinner with other doctors and professionals I cannot show up in a Toyota 4Runner. That would hurt my business or give the perception that I have not been successful. My patients want to see me in a name brand vehicle because they relate that as having a successful practice. So if your life style allows you to drive a 4Runner do it.
Lexus, BMW , Mercedes all equate to success or the perception of success that is why these nameplates exist and do so well.
Toyota equates to reliability at a good value. Nothing wrong with that, just not the image I need or want at this stage in my life. It was ok when I was just getting out of college or starting my practice but not now.
Another thing I want to know is why would you come into the Lexus forums and ask Lexus owners why we would not buy a Toyota? That would be as silly as one of us going to the Toyota 4 Runner forums and asking them why they did not buy the Lexus. Different budgets, different lifestyles.
Sorry for the typing errors Im a doctor not an english major.
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06-21-05, 06:22 AM
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Personally, I've only purchased one new car in my life, so, I won't be buying either vehicle new. So for me, it's a used 4Runner now or a GX470 in a couple of more years.
My GS is the first car I've bought which I've absolutely loved. So far, I've put 10,000 miles on it (70,000 total) and with the exception of a couple minor annoyances, the car has been more reliable than my previous new car and much more pleasing to drive.
I know these things can become a matter of taste and or justifications. But, for me, I’d rather spend the extra or buy an older Lexus and really like what I'm driving, than to settle for a newer car I don't enjoy.
I currently drive a 99 4Runner, so I'm in no way bashing Toyota. Besides, the only thing more reliable than a CPO Toyota or Lexus is a new Toyota or Lexus.
In conclusion, I can't express how much I HATE the swing out tail gate on the GX. However, this will not stop me from waiting a couple more years to buy the GX. I've driven both, and there are no comparisons. Specs can say all they want, but will never describe the actual feel.
Status means nothing to me... Comfort, value and quality do. The value in Lexus is in its quality and comfort.
As has been said before. So long as you buy a Toyota product, you can't go wrong. I've never been let down by any of my Toyotas...Seven so far.
My GS is the first car I've bought which I've absolutely loved. So far, I've put 10,000 miles on it (70,000 total) and with the exception of a couple minor annoyances, the car has been more reliable than my previous new car and much more pleasing to drive.
I know these things can become a matter of taste and or justifications. But, for me, I’d rather spend the extra or buy an older Lexus and really like what I'm driving, than to settle for a newer car I don't enjoy.
I currently drive a 99 4Runner, so I'm in no way bashing Toyota. Besides, the only thing more reliable than a CPO Toyota or Lexus is a new Toyota or Lexus.
In conclusion, I can't express how much I HATE the swing out tail gate on the GX. However, this will not stop me from waiting a couple more years to buy the GX. I've driven both, and there are no comparisons. Specs can say all they want, but will never describe the actual feel.
Status means nothing to me... Comfort, value and quality do. The value in Lexus is in its quality and comfort.
As has been said before. So long as you buy a Toyota product, you can't go wrong. I've never been let down by any of my Toyotas...Seven so far.
06-21-05, 12:05 PM
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Why are people posting in this thread? If you want a GX, get one. If you want a 4Runner, get one.
Affordability, status, intended use, personal preference all have something to do with it. They are built side-by-side in Japan, the quality is the same. GX def. has nice upgrades and Toyota is smart, they step it up for each level of trim.
Please let this stupid debate die!
Affordability, status, intended use, personal preference all have something to do with it. They are built side-by-side in Japan, the quality is the same. GX def. has nice upgrades and Toyota is smart, they step it up for each level of trim.
Please let this stupid debate die!
06-21-05, 01:32 PM
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HERE LIES THE GREAT
"4-RUNNER VS GX470"
DEBATE
GRACED OUR PRESENCE
JANUARY 5, 2004
DEPARTED THIS WORLD
JANUARY 17, 2004
REST IN PEACE, MY FRIEND
DUG UP FROM THE SHALLOW GRAVE
AND STOMPED TO DUST
JUNE 13, 2005
"4-RUNNER VS GX470"
DEBATE
GRACED OUR PRESENCE
JANUARY 5, 2004
DEPARTED THIS WORLD
JANUARY 17, 2004
REST IN PEACE, MY FRIEND
DUG UP FROM THE SHALLOW GRAVE
AND STOMPED TO DUST
JUNE 13, 2005
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06-21-05, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RX469
Can we have a group hug then go out and enjoy our SUVs. peace.
peace.
It's ok to debate in a civilized way, otherwise nobody will be asking any questions. We'll just be
then. At least someone who is considering either one will have different POV 
06-21-05, 08:22 PM
#43
Originally Posted by GXPrado
Why are people posting in this thread? If you want a GX, get one. If you want a 4Runner, get one.
Affordability, status, intended use, personal preference all have something to do with it. They are built side-by-side in Japan, the quality is the same. GX def. has nice upgrades and Toyota is smart, they step it up for each level of trim.
Please let this stupid debate die!
Affordability, status, intended use, personal preference all have something to do with it. They are built side-by-side in Japan, the quality is the same. GX def. has nice upgrades and Toyota is smart, they step it up for each level of trim.
Please let this stupid debate die!
06-22-05, 02:29 PM
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I will defend what you have to say ... as long as it makes sense
Originally Posted by rj4510
Last I heard, reading threads were a vuluntary act. No one is forcing anyone to read or post to a thread. Obviously some folks find this thread interesting.
After all, don't forget who the home team is.
06-29-05, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RAM MAN
I looked at the 4Runner and liked it a lot. But the headliner was so low it brushed aginst my hair, same problem I had with our Subaru Outback. The GX470 has another 2" of head room, still not as much head room as my Dodge Ram but much better for me than the 4Runner.