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Old 08-27-23, 05:36 AM
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Hi, i Just bought a 2023 GX460 and i noticed at certain speeds the hood bounces a little. Guessing its because of the amount of air is getting through that massive grill. Is that normal? Doesnt seem to affect the driving and i cant feel it, but it was odd to drive it off the lot with 8 miles on it and see that when i got on the highway.
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Originally Posted by warnerca
Hi, i Just bought a 2023 GX460 and i noticed at certain speeds the hood bounces a little. Guessing its because of the amount of air is getting through that massive grill. Is that normal? Doesnt seem to affect the driving and i cant feel it, but it was odd to drive it off the lot with 8 miles on it and see that when i got on the highway.
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FWIW, my 2014 does this as well, as did my '03 LX. I think it's just a combo of thin metal, a large surface area, and aerodynamics. I re-glued the "skin" of the sheetmetal to the actual frame of the hood, but yours is obviously still intact being brand new.

Just to add a visual, here's the underside of the hood with the liner removed. Anywhere you see white peeking out is where the factory adhesive had let go and I added some more.


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Hi,

I have a 2023 as well and also notice the same thing on highway speeds. Seems normal but I too was a bit surprised at first. Build quality looks excellent though as far as hood attachment points, hood itself, etc. Likely is due to the size and air flow.
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Same on our 21, and same for our 19 Explorer, so I think is more the airflow vs design causing this. Our ML has no movement at all.
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Normal and not just for these vehicles. It's a side effect of thin material the auto makers use to shave as much weight as possible for MPGs.
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My 18 Denali did the same thing, aluminum hood, though watching it move at 80mph was a little disconcerting to be honest. Eventually you just get used to it.
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seen reports on the hood latch eventually breaking on these. even heard that the new design will have more than one latch and springs instead of stops.
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Originally Posted by John00
seen reports on the hood latch eventually breaking on these.
177k+miles on mine after 13 years with the majority on the highway. My hood latch works just fine and shows no signs of damage.

Can you provide those example "reports"?
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Originally Posted by MrTorgue
177k+miles on mine after 13 years with the majority on the highway. My hood latch works just fine and shows no signs of damage.

Can you provide those example "reports"?
mine is also good. thats the thing with reliability, the small sample size you have visibility to isnt large enough to understand the distribution.
and ive not seen it on any vehicle that old. realize that your vehicle has parts with different specs than newer vehicles. yes, the newer ones are made differently in order to slow the cost rise impact.
i am not able to share the actual data, its considered proprietary as it is engineering data.
but here's an example i found in under 15 seconds using this thing called the internet:




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Maybe this might help?
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FWIW our ‘15 4Runner had significant hood wobble under speed (or car wash) but the latch integrity was never any sort of issue. My ‘19 and my ‘23 GXs don’t do it. My ‘24 BMW X5 doesn’t do it and is the first vehicle I’ve owned with double hood latches.
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flex can happen with thin poorly designed hoods. but bounce should not happen. and flex can lead to bounce later depending on the stop design. assembly always plays a part as well as the manufacture of the components.
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Originally Posted by John00
mine is also good. thats the thing with reliability, the small sample size you have visibility to isnt large enough to understand the distribution.
and ive not seen it on any vehicle that old. realize that your vehicle has parts with different specs than newer vehicles. yes, the newer ones are made differently in order to slow the cost rise impact.
i am not able to share the actual data, its considered proprietary as it is engineering data.
but here's an example i found in under 15 seconds using this thing called the internet:

I was following along agreeing with your albeit slightly condescending post until you said "this thing called the internet". You don't have to be a jerk while having a reasonable conversation.
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Originally Posted by halfpint30
Mine is not like this, only teh metal flexing with teh wind, same on the Explorer
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