Manual says you may/may not have jack handle. I don't in MY2023. Matter?
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Manual says you may/may not have jack handle. I don't in MY2023. Matter?
The user manual on page 550 (for MY2023) says there are "Vehicles with Jack handle" and "Vehicles without Jack handle." Mine does not appear to have a Jack handle. Does that matter? Is one better than the other? Looking at parts sites, the Jack handle is not that expensive, but it looks like I would need to change the "Wheel nut wrench," too. Thoughts?
I am asking because I have had to change our tires before on the side of the freeway. Our brand new (at the time) 2023 Land Rover Defender lost pressure rapidly on the way to the airport at 5AM. The Land Rover is pretty easy because the tire is mounted externally on the rear (but you have to deal with the air suspension which makes jacking a chore). I want to be prepared if this should happen to the new Lexus.
Photo attached is our toolbox.
I am asking because I have had to change our tires before on the side of the freeway. Our brand new (at the time) 2023 Land Rover Defender lost pressure rapidly on the way to the airport at 5AM. The Land Rover is pretty easy because the tire is mounted externally on the rear (but you have to deal with the air suspension which makes jacking a chore). I want to be prepared if this should happen to the new Lexus.
Photo attached is our toolbox.
#3
It's right there.
What do you mean, "I don't have a jack handle?"
What do you think the connector is? It's the three pieces you connect together at the bottom of your tool tray, that you use to spin the bottle jack to raise it.
What do you mean, "I don't have a jack handle?"
What do you think the connector is? It's the three pieces you connect together at the bottom of your tool tray, that you use to spin the bottle jack to raise it.
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I am completely confused too. By jack handle, did you mean the L-shape handle that is used together with the 3 pierce connectors at the bottom of your tool tray?
To be honest I did not read the owner manual and did not realize there were vehicles without the handle. I took a look at mine and it was there. One would need the L-shape piece to operate the jack and to lower the spare tire. And, I am confused why this handle had anything to do with wheel nuts. One does not use the handle for wheels.
To be honest I did not read the owner manual and did not realize there were vehicles without the handle. I took a look at mine and it was there. One would need the L-shape piece to operate the jack and to lower the spare tire. And, I am confused why this handle had anything to do with wheel nuts. One does not use the handle for wheels.
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I was referring to this part of the manual:
My toolkit looks like the one that Lexus describes as "Vehicles without Jack handle." I am curious what the difference is.
As far as the wheel nut wrench, the two wheel nut wrenches look different in the manual illustration. Again, I was just curious if anyone knew why there are two kinds.
My toolkit looks like the one that Lexus describes as "Vehicles without Jack handle." I am curious what the difference is.
As far as the wheel nut wrench, the two wheel nut wrenches look different in the manual illustration. Again, I was just curious if anyone knew why there are two kinds.
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I was referring to this part of the manual:
My toolkit looks like the one that Lexus describes as "Vehicles without Jack handle." I am curious what the difference is.
As far as the wheel nut wrench, the two wheel nut wrenches look different in the manual illustration. Again, I was just curious if anyone knew why there are two kinds.
My toolkit looks like the one that Lexus describes as "Vehicles without Jack handle." I am curious what the difference is.
As far as the wheel nut wrench, the two wheel nut wrenches look different in the manual illustration. Again, I was just curious if anyone knew why there are two kinds.
I have a 2010....so it started as two parts. I'm now wondering what all the other empty slots are for....
And who knows, there are all kinds of odd regulations around globe. I read that's why old BMWs didn't have the foldable red emergency triangle in toolkit slot (Didn't meet US DOT reg). And all French cars have to have a yellow emergency vest in trunk....hence the "gilets jaunes"....yellow vests....protests in France.
Last edited by jphowey; 01-07-24 at 07:04 AM.
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pllxs (01-07-24)
#7
Ok… I see what they’re on about.
What they’re referring to as a “jack handle” is the separate handle they used to include to spin the jack extensions. Since they put a “pinch” in the center of the tire iron and punched a square hole in it to use it to spin the jack extension (frankly, it’s both a crummy tire iron and a crummy jack extension spinner), then I guess Lexus saved $3 on their $72,000 luxury sport utility vehicle.
<rolleyes>
What they’re referring to as a “jack handle” is the separate handle they used to include to spin the jack extensions. Since they put a “pinch” in the center of the tire iron and punched a square hole in it to use it to spin the jack extension (frankly, it’s both a crummy tire iron and a crummy jack extension spinner), then I guess Lexus saved $3 on their $72,000 luxury sport utility vehicle.
<rolleyes>
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Beyond the jack ... if anyone thinks they can crack 85 ft-lb lug nuts with this anemic "kit" ... time to get a Gorilla Wrench ... unless one is inclined to sit on the side of the road and wait (potentially hours) for AAA to arrive. The Lexus "tool kit" is a complete joke. Take control of your destiny and buy real tools and stop fixating on the tool pod being "complete". The only "tool" in this kit that is worth anything is to lower the spare tire to the ground ...
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Carnevino (01-07-24)
#10
if you can balance properly and have some athletic ability, you can put on the lock adapter when needed, add the wrench, step on it, then bounce.
not ideal, and can be unsafe. but if you get in a pinch that might be all you got.
then go and get 'real tools' as above. and dont limit to what fits in the oem holder.
ill add, keep one foot close to the lug end of the wrench and shift weight to the other foot which should be at the end of the wrench.
not ideal, and can be unsafe. but if you get in a pinch that might be all you got.
then go and get 'real tools' as above. and dont limit to what fits in the oem holder.
ill add, keep one foot close to the lug end of the wrench and shift weight to the other foot which should be at the end of the wrench.
#11
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Ok… I see what they’re on about.
What they’re referring to as a “jack handle” is the separate handle they used to include to spin the jack extensions. Since they put a “pinch” in the center of the tire iron and punched a square hole in it to use it to spin the jack extension (frankly, it’s both a crummy tire iron and a crummy jack extension spinner), then I guess Lexus saved $3 on their $72,000 luxury sport utility vehicle.
<rolleyes>
What they’re referring to as a “jack handle” is the separate handle they used to include to spin the jack extensions. Since they put a “pinch” in the center of the tire iron and punched a square hole in it to use it to spin the jack extension (frankly, it’s both a crummy tire iron and a crummy jack extension spinner), then I guess Lexus saved $3 on their $72,000 luxury sport utility vehicle.
<rolleyes>
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jphowey (01-08-24)
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I am completely confused too. By jack handle, did you mean the L-shape handle that is used together with the 3 pierce connectors at the bottom of your tool tray?
To be honest I did not read the owner manual and did not realize there were vehicles without the handle. I took a look at mine and it was there. One would need the L-shape piece to operate the jack and to lower the spare tire. And, I am confused why this handle had anything to do with wheel nuts. One does not use the handle for wheels.
To be honest I did not read the owner manual and did not realize there were vehicles without the handle. I took a look at mine and it was there. One would need the L-shape piece to operate the jack and to lower the spare tire. And, I am confused why this handle had anything to do with wheel nuts. One does not use the handle for wheels.
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