2010 GX 460 voluntary recall (update to the ECU VSC coming out end of April)
04-20-10, 04:36 PM
#32
Approximately 34 Thousand Vehicles Involved in this 'Remedy'
http://www2.toyota.co.jp/en/news/10/04/0420.html
April 20, 2010
TMC Announces Remedy for Vehicle Stability Control
in Lexus GX 460 and Toyota Land Cruiser Prado
Toyota City, Japan—Toyota Motor Corporation (TMC) announces its remedy for the problem concerning the Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) program in its Lexus GX 460 and certain Land Cruiser Prado vehicles.
In circumstances in which advanced driving skills are required, such as when a driver of the involved vehicle sharply turns the steering wheel in high-speed conditions, or when the driver negotiates a curve at excessive speeds, the vehicle could slide sideways, due to the insufficient activation of the VSC.
The following conditions combine to cause the problem:
- In the GX 460 and Land Cruiser Prado, heavy components, such as the fuel tank, are located on the left side, and in left-hand drive versions, the left side is made even heavier because of the presence of the driver.
- For vehicles with certain tires (on 18-inch wheels) and equipped with the Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System (KDSS*) and VSC, the activation of the VSC may not be sufficient in certain circumstances due to the setting of the VSC program.
- Circumstances may require advanced driving skills, such as sharp turns of the steering wheel in high-speed conditions or negotiating a curve to the right at excessive speeds.
As a remedy, Toyota will update the VSC program to enhance the effectiveness of the VSC so that the risk of the vehicle sliding, even to the point that it is almost sideways, will be reduced.
Vehicles involved are as follows:
- GX 460: Approx. 13,000 units in total Approx. 9,400 units in the United States, approx. 1,000 units in Russia, approx 1,000 units in Oman
- Land Cruiser Prado: Approx. 21,000 units in total (only left-hand drive vehicles with KDSS and VSC)
Approx. 4,400 units in Oman, approx. 4,000 units in Russia, approx. 1,500 units in the United Arab Emirates. No right-hand drive units have this problem.
In total, approximately 34,000 units worldwide are involved. In North America, Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc. (TMS) and Toyota Canada Inc. (TCI) each announced a voluntary recall on April 19 (local time). As for other regions and countries involved, such as in Europe and the Middle East, TMC will work to implement similar measures as soon as possible.
*Optimally adjusts the front and rear stabilizers so that the stabilizers disengage in rough road conditions, thereby preventing the vehicle from pitching in curves.
April 20, 2010
TMC Announces Remedy for Vehicle Stability Control
in Lexus GX 460 and Toyota Land Cruiser Prado
Toyota City, Japan—Toyota Motor Corporation (TMC) announces its remedy for the problem concerning the Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) program in its Lexus GX 460 and certain Land Cruiser Prado vehicles.
In circumstances in which advanced driving skills are required, such as when a driver of the involved vehicle sharply turns the steering wheel in high-speed conditions, or when the driver negotiates a curve at excessive speeds, the vehicle could slide sideways, due to the insufficient activation of the VSC.
The following conditions combine to cause the problem:
- In the GX 460 and Land Cruiser Prado, heavy components, such as the fuel tank, are located on the left side, and in left-hand drive versions, the left side is made even heavier because of the presence of the driver.
- For vehicles with certain tires (on 18-inch wheels) and equipped with the Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System (KDSS*) and VSC, the activation of the VSC may not be sufficient in certain circumstances due to the setting of the VSC program.
- Circumstances may require advanced driving skills, such as sharp turns of the steering wheel in high-speed conditions or negotiating a curve to the right at excessive speeds.
As a remedy, Toyota will update the VSC program to enhance the effectiveness of the VSC so that the risk of the vehicle sliding, even to the point that it is almost sideways, will be reduced.
Vehicles involved are as follows:
- GX 460: Approx. 13,000 units in total Approx. 9,400 units in the United States, approx. 1,000 units in Russia, approx 1,000 units in Oman
- Land Cruiser Prado: Approx. 21,000 units in total (only left-hand drive vehicles with KDSS and VSC)
Approx. 4,400 units in Oman, approx. 4,000 units in Russia, approx. 1,500 units in the United Arab Emirates. No right-hand drive units have this problem.
In total, approximately 34,000 units worldwide are involved. In North America, Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc. (TMS) and Toyota Canada Inc. (TCI) each announced a voluntary recall on April 19 (local time). As for other regions and countries involved, such as in Europe and the Middle East, TMC will work to implement similar measures as soon as possible.
*Optimally adjusts the front and rear stabilizers so that the stabilizers disengage in rough road conditions, thereby preventing the vehicle from pitching in curves.
Last edited by SaniDel; 04-20-10 at 05:01 PM.
04-20-10, 05:38 PM
#33
Mark Templin Video Announcement of Voluntary Recall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M1Pj0KCjAs
May I suggest to all 2010 GX 460 owners that they take Mark Templin at his word ... contact your dealer, take advantage of the support they offer ... and keep things in perspective? This issue will soon be resolved and the long-term effect on the resale value of your new vehicle will be negligible ... unless you choose to "make a mountain out of a molehill"!
Regards,
SaniDel
May I suggest to all 2010 GX 460 owners that they take Mark Templin at his word ... contact your dealer, take advantage of the support they offer ... and keep things in perspective? This issue will soon be resolved and the long-term effect on the resale value of your new vehicle will be negligible ... unless you choose to "make a mountain out of a molehill"!
Regards,
SaniDel
04-20-10, 05:47 PM
#34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M1Pj0KCjAs
May I suggest to all 2010 GX 460 owners that they take Mark Templin at his word ... contact your dealer, take advantage of the support they offer ... and keep things in perspective?
May I suggest to all 2010 GX 460 owners that they take Mark Templin at his word ... contact your dealer, take advantage of the support they offer ... and keep things in perspective?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDTeO...layer_embedded
EYES ON THE ROAD
APRIL 21, 2010
Why Toyota Rolled Over for Its SUVs
By JOSEPH B. WHITE
Government agencies, automotive magazines and auto makers elsewhere in the world evaluate vehicle stability using tests designed to simulate the panicky steering that can get motorists into trouble. An automotive magazine in Sweden flipped over a Mercedes-Benz A-class in 1997 with a fast lane-change test dubbed the "moose test," so named because it simulated the maneuvers required to evade a moose (or elk) in the road. A chastened Mercedes redesigned the car and installed stability control, and the revamped A-Class passed. [...]
The problem with both the NHTSA and Consumer Reports tests is that about 95% of rollover accidents happen under circumstances that they don't cover. Such accidents occur when a vehicle hits a curb or ditch or some other obstacle and "trips" over the obstruction. Even vehicles with a low center of gravity can and do roll when tripped up. In 2008, 69% of all rollover accidents involved cars.
APRIL 21, 2010
Why Toyota Rolled Over for Its SUVs
By JOSEPH B. WHITE
Government agencies, automotive magazines and auto makers elsewhere in the world evaluate vehicle stability using tests designed to simulate the panicky steering that can get motorists into trouble. An automotive magazine in Sweden flipped over a Mercedes-Benz A-class in 1997 with a fast lane-change test dubbed the "moose test," so named because it simulated the maneuvers required to evade a moose (or elk) in the road. A chastened Mercedes redesigned the car and installed stability control, and the revamped A-Class passed. [...]
The problem with both the NHTSA and Consumer Reports tests is that about 95% of rollover accidents happen under circumstances that they don't cover. Such accidents occur when a vehicle hits a curb or ditch or some other obstacle and "trips" over the obstruction. Even vehicles with a low center of gravity can and do roll when tripped up. In 2008, 69% of all rollover accidents involved cars.
This time, the response from Lexus and Toyota was very quick, just a week's time between the announcement and the software update. They also suspended sales the same day and are coordinating the VSC recall worldwide. This is definitely setting a rapid response precedent for the future.
04-21-10, 04:08 PM
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This is the heritage that comes with our GX 460! Did not regret my purchase for one second.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56AWG75_gOc&NR=1
04-21-10, 08:33 PM
#36
This is the heritage that comes with our GX 460! Did not regret my purchase for one second.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56AWG75_gOc&NR=1
04-23-10, 04:40 AM
#37
Very impressive.AKFD, I believe the latest model LX is no longer based on the Land Cruiser but is based on the Seqouia truck instead and IMHO, cheapens the LX model. Had Toyota/Lexus still kept the Land Cruiser as the basis of the the LX then it might be worth the extra $25K+ over the price of the GX...
Seqouia, really??!?? What were you thinking Toyota!
04-23-10, 07:19 AM
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04-23-10, 08:31 AM
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04-23-10, 04:36 PM
#42
All joking aside, has anyone made an appointment to get the VSC program updated? Because there are so few of the GX's here (I've seen 2 others in town), there's not much information. I called my dealer and it seems he didn't know too much about the recall.
04-23-10, 04:47 PM
#43
The Tundra is related to the Tacoma, which is really a Hilux. The Hilux is related to the Hilux Surf (4Runner), therefore it's related to the Land Cruiser. So in order to make myself look smart, the Sequoia does have something to do with the Land Cruiser.
All joking aside, has anyone made an appointment to get the VSC program updated? Because there are so few of the GX's here (I've seen 2 others in town), there's not much information. I called my dealer and it seems he didn't know too much about the recall.
All joking aside, has anyone made an appointment to get the VSC program updated? Because there are so few of the GX's here (I've seen 2 others in town), there's not much information. I called my dealer and it seems he didn't know too much about the recall.
Hope this clarifies any confusion.
04-23-10, 06:05 PM
#44
I dont think that is correct. The Tundra is a much larger truck(different frame & etc). The tacoma and 4runner may be still related somewhat, therefore making them a cousin to the LC Prado sold overseas. To clarify, the Sequioa & Tundra share a chassis, the 4runner & GX460 share one, and the LX570 & Land Cruiser share one.
Hope this clarifies any confusion.
Hope this clarifies any confusion.
By the way, I was just joking, trying to save face by sounding smart. Obviously to someone who knew the distinction, I looked awfully stupid.
04-23-10, 07:04 PM
#45