Oil and Filter Changes & Oil Filter Metal Retrofit Discussion
01-04-24, 04:39 PM
#766
Same here. Toyota dealer is right behind my neighborhood, but they told me the same story. The filter element for GX 460 does not have / come with the smller o-ring. So took a trip out of town to take care of some business and stopped by the Lexus dealer. Same story. I also have the LC 500. LC 500 filter doesn't have the smaller o ring either. Lexus parts guy doesn't know anything about it. After doing some more research on this today, I came across another video in Japanese on LC 500 oil change. In this video, the tech mentions that the filters sold domestically in Japan does include them, including the plastic drain tool in every filter box. I guess it's just a US thing... Toyota / Lexus decided to remove the filter cap drain option for the USA markets.
01-04-24, 04:49 PM
#767
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Let's get serious people ... yes, the oil filter canister is VERTICAL on the FJ Cruiser ... but is HORIZONTAL on the GX-460 ... so the "drain" feature is totally worthless ... maybe 1/2 of the oil in the filter housing is drained ... so what's the point anyway. I order the filter without the drain plastic thing and save money ...
So ... if ordering the Metal Filter Housing ... yes, there is one from Toyota that DOES NOT have the Bottom Drain Plug ...
So ... if ordering the Metal Filter Housing ... yes, there is one from Toyota that DOES NOT have the Bottom Drain Plug ...
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01-05-24, 05:48 AM
#768
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01-05-24, 03:11 PM
#770
Got mine sorted. But if you are looking for that 1 small o ring, this is it. since it's no longer included in US sold filters.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/333598000686
oil filter cap's drain plug - o ring part# 96723-35028
Legit online toyota dealer source: https://parts.longotoyota.com/oem-pa...ket-9672335028
https://www.ebay.com/itm/333598000686
oil filter cap's drain plug - o ring part# 96723-35028
Legit online toyota dealer source: https://parts.longotoyota.com/oem-pa...ket-9672335028
01-06-24, 06:06 PM
#771
some aftermarkets come with the oring and the drain tool. those just go straight to the trash anyways.
slow removal eliminates the flow going crazy. lets it start slowly then loosen more.
slow removal eliminates the flow going crazy. lets it start slowly then loosen more.
01-08-24, 03:25 AM
#772
Update. That little o ring accoring to Lexus is not offered as part of the filter, as there is no need for it accoding to Lexus parts dept. But I was able to find the part number, and they had 1 in stock. So I'm all good. Here is the strange part.. Why so many online resources show this o ring in the bag? Also, why are the online filter elements looks beige? My (both GX 460 & LC 500) are both orange and the element is very brittle. I wonder if the online filter change videos are using potentia counterfeit products?
I ask this because I asked the parts guy at Lexus. He tells me that he has never seen the GX 460 filter come with the smaller o-ring for the filter cap drain plug. Because GX doesn't have one. Which makes sense... So what are these online guys using then( filters ) which. I'm baffled..
I ask this because I asked the parts guy at Lexus. He tells me that he has never seen the GX 460 filter come with the smaller o-ring for the filter cap drain plug. Because GX doesn't have one. Which makes sense... So what are these online guys using then( filters ) which. I'm baffled..
EDIT: See below.
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01-08-24, 08:20 AM
#773
I saw on a Tacoma forum where some people were saying they switched to metal ones and they switched back to the factory plastic because the metal ones developed some oil leaks. Anyone else have that issue with the GX?
01-08-24, 08:24 AM
#774
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01-08-24, 01:51 PM
#775
The case some were making is receiving part that the filter cover screws into is a different material and doesn't seem to mate at well as it does with the composite, factory canister.
Some people just switched back to a new composite one and the leaks stopped.
I personally hate the composite filter canister, but trying to decide if I just get a new one or go metal. Would have greatly preferred had they been metal from the factory. Plastic doesn't belong anywhere on an engine.
Some people just switched back to a new composite one and the leaks stopped.
I personally hate the composite filter canister, but trying to decide if I just get a new one or go metal. Would have greatly preferred had they been metal from the factory. Plastic doesn't belong anywhere on an engine.
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01-08-24, 01:55 PM
#776
Edit: Relative to the GX anyway. I have no idea what people are doing/using with Tacos.
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01-08-24, 02:01 PM
#777
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/...eaking.645263/
https://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...y-leaking.html
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/oil...-leak.1271224/
Not saying it does happen, just that other people have complained about it.
https://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...y-leaking.html
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/oil...-leak.1271224/
Not saying it does happen, just that other people have complained about it.
01-10-24, 07:45 AM
#778
OK, I admit I went to a quick lube shop to have oil replaced, shame on me for not DIY. They destroyed the plastic part trying to get it off (They spent an hour trying to remove the plastic part.). They replaced with the new metal one for no charge. Only problem was when I got home I saw it was leaking. Took it back. They said there was an issue with the metal filter housing and ordered a new one. Meanwhile, they simply removed and re-installed the "defective" housing and gave me a container with 5 quarts of oil to "top off". The thing never leaked again. I firmly believe it was just installed improperly, likely over torqued leading to the leak. When assembled properly, no issues. I guess I got some free oil.
01-10-24, 08:04 AM
#779
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Iffy-Lube ... where the "technician" was fired from McDonald's the week before, and was given 15-minutes of oil change training.
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01-10-24, 08:21 AM
#780
OK, I admit I went to a quick lube shop to have oil replaced, shame on me for not DIY. They destroyed the plastic part trying to get it off (They spent an hour trying to remove the plastic part.). They replaced with the new metal one for no charge. Only problem was when I got home I saw it was leaking. Took it back. They said there was an issue with the metal filter housing and ordered a new one. Meanwhile, they simply removed and re-installed the "defective" housing and gave me a container with 5 quarts of oil to "top off". The thing never leaked again. I firmly believe it was just installed improperly, likely over torqued leading to the leak. When assembled properly, no issues. I guess I got some free oil.
In all reality it's not possible to overtorque the housing. It's a hard stop with a very large diameter thread. You'd be bending a breaker bar before anything failed.
So.....Go see if you have Lexus/Toyota metal housing or a cheapie aftermarket one.