yeah, lexus now finally getting it. The auto companies are at the level of street racers from 10 years ago.

 

Well, a car company is expected to create a setup that is reliable for long term use. An individual modifying their car doesn't care if they blow it up lol

 

The four engines to which I referred were all naturally aspirated.

 

Correct, and then you made the age old stupid comment "no replacement for displacement"....so

 

I work at a lexus dealership and im pretty plugged in when it comes to whats coming down the pipe. as we all know lexus really doesn't say much about future cars, and I am at a complete and total loss on the next GS, if there even is one. rumor has it that it may be discontinued but that hasn't been confirmed, but there is just nothing, and I mean NOTHING out there about the 2017 GX. prob not a great sign...

 

So they're spending all this money on the GS/GS-F, but it's going to be discontinued????? WTGDF???

 

You clearly are in a much better position than me to read the tea leaves; but it seems odd that they would discontinue a platform that is showing growth, unless they have something in mind to replace it. I know they have denied a stretched RX, but there are spy shots confirming that they are testing it out. So perhaps a RX-L or something, but I wouldn't be surprised if they leave it as is for another year or do a LX update.

In the past have the Prado updates coincided with the GX updates? Perhaps rumors of the Prado platform could foreshadow the GX's future.

 

I think there was a mistype. It was supposed to say GX.

The market for the GS is huge, they need something to compete with the BMW 5 series.

 

Don't read much into it.

GX is an inexpensive to produce, high-margin SUV. As long as it sells, and as long as they make the 4runner and the Prado, GX will continue on.

Refreshes to the Prado and the GX have coincided since GX was introduced.

Also, FWIW, dealers do not typically find anything out significantly ahead of the journalists.

 

I guess the question is, when is the Prado due for a complete refresh?

 

There are some damn good naturally aspirated engines that run with forced induction in power, torque and economy. There will always be people who nit pick one or the other, but there are good and not so good on both sides. The single best example is the GM LS and LT engines. Look at the performance and economy of the Stingray then show me an example of another sports car that beats it in balance of properties. Horsepower, torque and economy are all best in class and it's normally aspirated. I had a 505 hp Z06 that easily got 26 mpg cruising at 75 mph yet some folks got them into the 10's in the quarter mile bone stock.

 

Sometimes age old comments are accurate, as in this case. Plus, it's my opinion.

Chill, dude.

 

I honestly really don't think they will discontinue the GX, and since the LC Prado mirrors/generic GX we should keep a close eye on it

 

As a soon to be new GX owner - ordered and deposit - i too had this same question. While i can't and won't disclose any sources, i have it on good insider knowledge (toy corp/Lex corp) that the GX is being discontinued for a unibody 3 row v6 version - rumors of a TX platform have circulated for a few years, and whether or not its a tx or RX - the idea communicated it will basically be a 3 row RX. (Lexus version of a Highlander is what i expect to see announced midyear - but thats my opinion)

I hope the info is wrong or decisions not necessarily made - but regardless - i chose the gx as its on the truck chassis (i currently own a 13 4runner) - it has a v8 (and I do some towing at altitude) - and i know it will last and have a TCO lower than most other alternatives.

Also - i have a fairly "particular" wife - and she's owned a lexus and simply likes the size and drivability of the 4 runner / GX over say a tahoe... and won't even "allow" a grand cherokee, ford or chevy/gm to grace the garage...

so - regardless of all the options that could tick the boxes - i chose the GX... FWIW - local dealers can't seem to get em in fast enough in CO so deposit and on the list for a color scheme that is coming later in Feb - we hope.

Truly - not trying to sound like a troll as a first time poster - as I said - i'm buying one whether they do indeed decide to move to a new platform and do so with a smile.

 

That's right.
I did remember when the 2nd gen first came out, there were some talk where for maybe 5-10k more, you can get into an LX instead.
I wasn't in the market for one so I never followed through.