GX engine
07-01-18, 09:31 AM
#16
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Ok guys, took some time to drive the lx570 yesterday. First impressions, very heavy steering feel and high seating postion. I couldn't feel a discernible difference in the Mark Levinson from my base LS460 stereo from 09. The fit and finish is truly world class. Driving it feels very lethargic but extremely quiet. Honestly after driving all 3 I will opt in on the GX460.
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Wadle5 (07-03-18)
07-03-18, 10:14 AM
#18
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Alex on Auto said in his '14-'15 review of GX 460
4R to GX - cousins
GX to LC Prado - brothers with different mothers
Just my opinion :-)
More than likely an endless debate... '80s GM where literally same car different badge we don't have here
I'm of the opinion different vehicles even if frame and drivetrain are very similar or identical in many respects. The heavy body and panels on top of that frame are substantially different even if many of internal components are interchangeable.
EDIT: It would be interesting to know even though both vehicles are both made at Tahara plant does the GX get more stringent quality control inspections than a 4R?
4R to GX - cousins
GX to LC Prado - brothers with different mothers
Just my opinion :-)
More than likely an endless debate... '80s GM where literally same car different badge we don't have here
I'm of the opinion different vehicles even if frame and drivetrain are very similar or identical in many respects. The heavy body and panels on top of that frame are substantially different even if many of internal components are interchangeable.
EDIT: It would be interesting to know even though both vehicles are both made at Tahara plant does the GX get more stringent quality control inspections than a 4R?
07-03-18, 12:33 PM
#19
So you’re believing a salesman with a personal financial interest in selling you something? Let me guess, he didn’t offer to provide a document to back that claim up. Call him back and ask him documented proof.
07-03-18, 07:37 PM
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07-04-18, 12:12 PM
#21
There isn’t a 10x time improvement in tolerances between a Toyota Prado and a Lexus GX. They are made on the same line. Tahara, Aichi. There are probably different tolerances at the Sichuan (China) or the Russian plant.
07-04-18, 12:23 PM
#22
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I wonder if perhaps an additional final inspection or two? I have no clue about it myself.
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Wadle5 (07-04-18)
07-04-18, 02:59 PM
#23
Let’s assume that what @Wadle5 is saying is true because he says some general manager told him so, what do you back-up your comment with?
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07-04-18, 04:13 PM
#24
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Cool story bro, this is a retired individual who worked for Lexus for over 40 years. I guess he could have made that up, but not quite sure what benefit that would have been for him? Compare a 4runner to gx compare a Camry to an ES. . .the quality control is different, but to each their own. Keep on keeping on.
07-04-18, 04:18 PM
#25
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Compare a GX to a 4runner and get back to me. Besides the paint quality being vastly different the door gap and final fit and finish on Lexus' are blatantly better than a Toyota. But I mean I guess go with what you feel.
07-04-18, 04:36 PM
#26
Well, I’ve been around Land Cruisers over 20 years. I’ve read postings from people who’ve traveled to Japan and toured the production line. The question of differences between Toyota and Lexus routinely reoccurs. All the smart guys, including the ones who’ve toured the factories, say no difference. It’s all robotics now. Your assumption requires TMC to stand up an entirely parallel body production line (at great expense plus loss of floor space) with massive robotics. And for what? Driving a tolerance on a body line that the human eye cannot perceive? And they did this for the 80 series, 100 series, 120 series, 150 series, and the 200 series? And no bean counter came up with the idea it’d be cheaper to just use one set of tooling at the tighter tolerance?
07-04-18, 04:39 PM
#27
07-05-18, 06:25 AM
#28
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Well, I’ve been around Land Cruisers over 20 years. I’ve read postings from people who’ve traveled to Japan and toured the production line. The question of differences between Toyota and Lexus routinely reoccurs. All the smart guys, including the ones who’ve toured the factories, say no difference. It’s all robotics now. Your assumption requires TMC to stand up an entirely parallel body production line (at great expense plus loss of floor space) with massive robotics. And for what? Driving a tolerance on a body line that the human eye cannot perceive? And they did this for the 80 series, 100 series, 120 series, 150 series, and the 200 series? And no bean counter came up with the idea it’d be cheaper to just use one set of tooling at the tighter tolerance?
07-05-18, 04:19 PM
#29
This is a classic story of people saying Lexus IS an overpriced Toyota. There is a difference in quality from a Toyota to a Lexus. If you own a Toyota, congratulations on your purchase. If you own a Lexus, congratulations on your purchase.
Are you you going to tell a Rolls Royce owner that they are driving an overpriced 7 series...
Are you you going to tell a Rolls Royce owner that they are driving an overpriced 7 series...
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Craigyyy (07-09-18)
07-05-18, 04:38 PM
#30
Well, I’ve been around Land Cruisers over 20 years. I’ve read postings from people who’ve traveled to Japan and toured the production line. The question of differences between Toyota and Lexus routinely reoccurs. All the smart guys, including the ones who’ve toured the factories, say no difference. It’s all robotics now.
For me, people on the production line using non-pneumatics gave me a new appreciation for the product altogether. Since I have not been to both plants, i can't say which brand is better in this regard but the quality and workmanship is definitely there.