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Old 06-01-18, 08:16 PM
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Default Considering GX470 vs. GX460 for pre-owned purchase

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Like to post this on GX470 and GX460 forums.

Own a 2005 4-Runner Limited V8 with 322,745 miles on it.

Interested in GX470 in the '06-'09 range and GX460 in the '10-'12 range.

I have had no significant issues with the 4-Runner, but I am not looking to keep pushing it to higher mileage.

Typical of the decision to make, I'm looking at an '09 GX470 with about 150k miles just under 16k on the price versus a 2010 GX460 a little under 22k with around 100k miles.

The GX470 has the sport package, which I know from these forums is very rare.
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Originally Posted by raiders3
Appreciate impressive knowledge brought to this site by Lexus owners.

Like to post this on GX470 and GX460 forums.

Own a 2005 4-Runner Limited V8 with 322,745 miles on it.

Interested in GX470 in the '06-'09 range and GX460 in the '10-'12 range.

I have had no significant issues with the 4-Runner, but I am not looking to keep pushing it to higher mileage.

Typical of the decision to make, I'm looking at an '09 GX470 with about 150k miles just under 16k on the price versus a 2010 GX460 a little under 22k with around 100k miles.

The GX470 has the sport package, which I know from these forums is very rare.
I would pick 2010 GX. It has significant upgrade from 470, both performance and comfort.
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Whatever the ‘09 470 sport package has, the ‘10 460 has it and more. If it is the premium version, you would also get air adjustable suspension as well.
I would go for the ‘10 too. More refine, more
power and more comfy
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Whereas just the sport package 470s had KDSS...all 460s do.
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Not much of a consideration but one has a timing belt and the other doesnt.. so cheaper maintinence.
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Originally Posted by omgitsroy
Not much of a consideration but one has a timing belt and the other doesnt.. so cheaper maintinence.
I didn't know the GX460 required no timing belt maintenance until you pointed it out.

Thank you.
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Originally Posted by tecman
Thank you very much.

I have been so blessed to achieve 322,000 miles on my V8 4Runner. She has been so good to me.
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A few years back I was shopping new 4Runner vs GX470 and 460. Ultimately I decided on the 460 for several reasons, including those others mentioned above.

1) 470 was a long run, 460 was a substantial overhaul of the platform (and 460 is generally a newer and nicer vehicle than the 470).
2) More power, substantially better fuel economy with the 4.6 and 6spd transmission.
3) Features I wanted which were very difficult to find in the 470/not available (KDSS, bluetooth, rear camera, keyless entry etc) were standard on 460.
4) Much harder to find a clean, low mileage 470 in general vs clean, low mileage 460s which are plentiful (460 much easier to shop for).
5) Timing belt issue with 470, hard to figure out which trucks had had it done without traveling to see vehicle (again tougher to shop 470s).
6) While they are great vehicles, it seems like the 470s have a lot of little minor issues/gremlins/annoyances that the 460 does not have.
7) I like the newer look of the 460 vs the 470.

If you're willing to shop hard and travel across country you could probably get a great 470 for a great price.

In my experience, by the time you find a new enough, clean enough 470 with the options you want you're getting close to the price of a good 460. When I bought my 460, I want to say the spread between a 470 and a 460 was closer to $10,000. In your case it's $6,000 more to get the 460 over a 470 which has 50% more miles. Pretty easy decision IMO.

However if your current 4runner is still going strong, I'd be tempted to save your money and just stay in it a little longer. It's fully depreciated, whereas the 460s are still coming down. A couple more years you may be able to put roughly the same money into a 2014+.
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Default Timing Belt

I'm a new member, so apologize if i'm posting this in the wrong spot. I am considering purchasing a 2006 GX 470, and would like me mechanic to take a look at the car. Is there a way to tell if the timing belt and tensioner have been replaced, or if the car still has the original belt and tensioner?

Thank you.
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Originally Posted by 1967Jeepst
I'm a new member, so apologize if i'm posting this in the wrong spot. I am considering purchasing a 2006 GX 470, and would like me mechanic to take a look at the car. Is there a way to tell if the timing belt and tensioner have been replaced, or if the car still has the original belt and tensioner?

Thank you.
it should be reported to Lexus (and you can check online by registering with them) or possibly car fax. there's also a good chance there's a sticker on the engine if they did it.

To the OP: I shopped both, and while I was really close to getting a 470, I went 460. the fuel economy was better, it has AC seats and I live in Texas so that mattered, but the big thing was the safety. 460 has more airbags including knees for the front and side curtains for the rear. I have a kiddo, so I considered that mandatory.
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460 if money isn't an issue. I had my wife get a 08 470 and I love it but the 460 is more refined imo.
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I owned both generations, and both my wife and I actually preferred the previous generation if all things were equal. We sold it because it just had too many miles and we had owned it nearly 14 years and was starting to nickel and dime us. The previous generation seemed more upscale with better materials, nicer interior, smoother ride, better geared, etc. But like all things, it just got wore out and it was time to move on.

Don't get me wrong, I like our current GX, I would have made the same decision.

I will say though that buying a GX with 150k miles is going to have some issues. Also, $16k sounds awfully high to me.
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The mechanical weak link I hear about on the GX 470 is the 8" rear diff. Apparently the 8.2" one used in the 150 series models is quite a bit more stout. That being said it sounds like problems only begin to manifest on more hardcore off-roading. A lot of people apparently upgrade the 470 calipers to the 460 versions. Again more reliable.
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I have seen people suggest the 1st gen Gx has more take off power , meaning more fun to drive , having driven one , a 2018 model , seems that is true and that one thing I enjoy about my 2008 Gx , off the line pick up , acceleration .
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