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Not sure if this is relevant, and maybe I'm not seeing the same thing. So I read the posts (not all, but many). What I notice is the suspension unloading, but the brakes are holding firmly. The pedal feel is a bit different as well. So based on that observation, it's not totally unheard of for a suspension that is designed to be a bit flexi (like you would want for good off road performance) to unload a bit after the stop. I asked a couple of serious rock crawler buddies what their take was on it. They had the same impression. So is this something different and I am not seeing it? Just for grins, my street mortorcycle doesn't unload nearly as much as my dirt bike after a hard stop. Got on a sport bike to check out the theory, it unloaded very little compared to the others. Comments?????????????????????
More than adequate for me. Stops the big, heavy GX460 with ease. With anything, it's going to come down to parts and over all system condition. If you're using junk pads and rotors, don't expect great performance. If you've never changed the fluid then your system will suffer. If you use OEM or a quality equivalent for pads and rotors and have fresh fluid in a properly bled system, then you shouldn't have any problems.
The brakes on these giants are adequate, but no where near a porsche. Overheating isnt really an issue, as even after a cold start, the brakes are mushy (even new off the factory floor). You have to live with it, unless im missing something, with the amount of weight these things are pushing.
I approve of the "never enough brake" addage. However if you are taxing these brakes, its your poor driving that is to blame, not the brakes. This isn't a race car, its a light duty truck and thus needs to be driven like the very heavy vehicle it is. Not like a light weight car. Relax your driving a bit. take a bit more time getting there, enjoy the ride. give your self a bit more stopping distance so you don't wear them out prematurely. You will enjoy the ride a lot more, not waste your dollars on un necessary brake repairs, etc.
I agree with you on all 100% The original brake system is sufficient for braking a heavy SUV.
I do not see the reason of changing everything to a more expensive kits.
In my country & Russia popular DBA T3 brake rotors, but price is x2 with original from Toyota.
Мy opinion & my experience, need and good enough original break rotors with ceramic brake pads from Toyota.
Every 10000 km or twice a year
maintenance for brake system. Cleaning, greasing, blow air from system with scanner.
Мy opinion & my experience:
Brakes on GX not the best. This is a manufacturer's fault in design of brake system.
Brake rotors overheatheat very quickly. Not enough air for cooling
On the photo the Porsche brake system, you can see the airflow flaps for additional cooling.
I also repeated this option on my GX😉
Believe me, the cooling effect greatly increases the efficiency of the brakes.
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Infinity FX
Toyota Land Cruiser 200
Merсedes Sprinter
Toyota Camry
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Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X
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I bought a 2016 certified GX460 from the local dealership with 35K miles last week. This is my first Lexus and I am very excited for the truck. I got the premium trim with silver color which is what I wanted (to be frank, anything other than white or black would have been okay). I am replacing my Sienna van with this GX and obviously the handling is quite different. I knew I wanted a body on frame and the differences are expected to me. This is one gorgeous SUV.
The only thing I am not a big fan of how this truck brakes. It appears to me that I have to push the brake harder than usual (compared to my other Toyotas) and I tend to push the gear to neutral every time I stop at a red light because, again I have to use some power to hold the brake. Is this normal? I never had a situation I had trouble braking bit I am not liking how it handles. Could my brake pad be worn out at 35K? Mine has another 4years of extended warranty but I don't think brakes are included. Any feedback?
Unfortunately it is a common issue. Same thing happened to me and my wife. It is just something you have to get used to. There may be some fixes out there but for the most part it’s just a change in behavior. The below documents the issue pretty well:
I just went from 2015 Sienna to a 2018 GX as well. Handling I don't mind but you definitely have to press the brake harder at a stop sign or it will slow roll.
Coming from a car with sensitive brakes, it took me about a month to get used to it but losing the press to hold brake was the biggest to me. At a stop, you could double press the brake pedal and then take your foot off and it would hold the brakes until you press the gas (I think its fairly common now).
I bought a 2016 certified GX460 from the local dealership with 35K miles last week. This is my first Lexus and I am very excited for the truck. I got the premium trim with silver color which is what I wanted (to be frank, anything other than white or black would have been okay). I am replacing my Sienna van with this GX and obviously the handling is quite different. I knew I wanted a body on frame and the differences are expected to me. This is one gorgeous SUV.
The only thing I am not a big fan of how this truck brakes. It appears to me that I have to push the brake harder than usual (compared to my other Toyotas) and I tend to push the gear to neutral every time I stop at a red light because, again I have to use some power to hold the brake. Is this normal? I never had a situation I had trouble braking bit I am not liking how it handles. Could my brake pad be worn out at 35K? Mine has another 4years of extended warranty but I don't think brakes are included. Any feedback?
Get used to it. You are driving now heavier vehicle, full time 4WD. We grew up driving brakes without power boost, power steering, LOL! I drive mid size MB SUV, even my wife has no problem modulating the brake when she is driving it. Personally putting the gear into neutral like that is unnecessary with automatic tranny. Looks like you haven't driven real trucks like military vehicles? Color wise you chose 3rd popular one. White is first, black is 2nd.
Coming from a car with sensitive brakes, it took me about a month to get used to it but losing the press to hold brake was the biggest to me. At a stop, you could double press the brake pedal and then take your foot off and it would hold the brakes until you press the gas (I think its fairly common now).
Thanks a lot for your tips. Could you explain it a little more as I never heard of that before. If i try to double press my brake at a stop, the moment I take off my feet after the first press- the car jumps forward. How do you do this double press? Any documentation or video link? TIA.
11-25-17, 04:28 PM
Brake performance of 2016 GX460
