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08-23-21, 07:51 PM
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KDSS leaking any alternatives
Hello everyone. Just bought 2010 GX. Found out its leaning on one side. Checked under driver side door removed the plate, it was full of mud and kdss accumulator assembly is all corroded n leaking. Heard it is an expensive fix. Any suggestions..
08-23-21, 07:56 PM
#107
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08-24-21, 03:05 PM
#109
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10-07-21, 09:49 AM
#110
Driver School Candidate
KDSS + Misc help needed for newbie (2012 base gx460)
Hi all,
I had an intermittent KDSS light going on and off, with a deteriorated ride quality. I knew I had slight leakage on my front shock going in, but the dealer has managed to quote me over 9000 usd in repairs somehow. Ive asked for part/stock numbers to try and source them myself, but this is the closest to a description ive gotten from them. Any advice/help with specific part numbers would be much appreciated.
Now, for a side note. The vehicle went in for a regular 136k check + maintenance, and none of these issues were found/pointed out. I am barely at 138k, and suddenly theyve managed to diagnose all of these issues. Is it possible for these parts to deteriorate so quickly/ for them to have missed it during my prior visit ? Also, does anyone have experience/costs with getting these jobs done outside of the dealer at a third party garage ?
Feeling a bit overwhelmed, so i would greatly appreciate any assistance/ your opinions the matter.
10-07-21, 10:03 AM
#111
If the same place that gave you the repair quote did your inspection, then yes. There is a problem there.
Shocks and Vbelts usually don't go from good to bad in 2K miles.
Can you turn a wrench? The vbelt and Bulb are pretty easy to do.
The water pump and shocks are harder, but still do-able for a home mechanic.
The KDSS stuff I would get a second opinion on if you are not comfortable doing any work yourself, but it's going to be relatively expensive to have fixed if the accumulator needs to be replaced.
Shocks and Vbelts usually don't go from good to bad in 2K miles.
Can you turn a wrench? The vbelt and Bulb are pretty easy to do.
The water pump and shocks are harder, but still do-able for a home mechanic.
The KDSS stuff I would get a second opinion on if you are not comfortable doing any work yourself, but it's going to be relatively expensive to have fixed if the accumulator needs to be replaced.
10-07-21, 10:15 AM
#112
Driver School Candidate
If the same place that gave you the repair quote did your inspection, then yes. There is a problem there.
Shocks and Vbelts usually don't go from good to bad in 2K miles.
Can you turn a wrench? The vbelt and Bulb are pretty easy to do.
The water pump and shocks are harder, but still do-able for a home mechanic.
The KDSS stuff I would get a second opinion on if you are not comfortable doing any work yourself, but it's going to be relatively expensive to have fixed if the accumulator needs to be replaced.
Shocks and Vbelts usually don't go from good to bad in 2K miles.
Can you turn a wrench? The vbelt and Bulb are pretty easy to do.
The water pump and shocks are harder, but still do-able for a home mechanic.
The KDSS stuff I would get a second opinion on if you are not comfortable doing any work yourself, but it's going to be relatively expensive to have fixed if the accumulator needs to be replaced.
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10-07-21, 10:34 AM
#113
Was this a dealer quoting prices? If you do the water pump, the labor on the belt should be free since it has to come off anyways.
What's the underside of the car look like as far as rust? If it has been a Massachusetts car its whole life, you might have a lot of rust issues depending on how Mass treats their roads in the winter. Depending on how bad the rest of the car is, you might not want to sink a ton of money into it.
I will say that the prices you quoted seem like straight dealer prices for parts and labor. Try and get a second opinion from another shop, look for a independent Lexus mechanic or a Japanese specialist. Don't tell them what you've already been quoted, get a clean slate opinion and go form there.
What's the underside of the car look like as far as rust? If it has been a Massachusetts car its whole life, you might have a lot of rust issues depending on how Mass treats their roads in the winter. Depending on how bad the rest of the car is, you might not want to sink a ton of money into it.
I will say that the prices you quoted seem like straight dealer prices for parts and labor. Try and get a second opinion from another shop, look for a independent Lexus mechanic or a Japanese specialist. Don't tell them what you've already been quoted, get a clean slate opinion and go form there.
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ROSCOGX470 (10-14-21)
10-07-21, 04:27 PM
#114
Driver School Candidate
Was this a dealer quoting prices? If you do the water pump, the labor on the belt should be free since it has to come off anyways.
What's the underside of the car look like as far as rust? If it has been a Massachusetts car its whole life, you might have a lot of rust issues depending on how Mass treats their roads in the winter. Depending on how bad the rest of the car is, you might not want to sink a ton of money into it.
I will say that the prices you quoted seem like straight dealer prices for parts and labor. Try and get a second opinion from another shop, look for a independent Lexus mechanic or a Japanese specialist. Don't tell them what you've already been quoted, get a clean slate opinion and go form there.
What's the underside of the car look like as far as rust? If it has been a Massachusetts car its whole life, you might have a lot of rust issues depending on how Mass treats their roads in the winter. Depending on how bad the rest of the car is, you might not want to sink a ton of money into it.
I will say that the prices you quoted seem like straight dealer prices for parts and labor. Try and get a second opinion from another shop, look for a independent Lexus mechanic or a Japanese specialist. Don't tell them what you've already been quoted, get a clean slate opinion and go form there.
10-14-21, 10:25 PM
#117
Instructor
IMO those prices are astronomical. I just replaced my radiator, upper and lower hoses, thermostat and housing and water pump for $300 in parts from RockAuto and Indy mechanic for $300 in labor. Like another poster stated the Vbelt should have no labor charge as your paying for it twice with the water pump labor. Shocks for the base model can be purchased online for under $400 for all 4 and it’s not a hard job to do at all so labor should be minimal. The only issue I don’t know enough about is the KDSS accumulator, but I can tell you EBay or salvage yards would be my first stop. Not sure about the labor on the KDSS repair either. I am pretty confident that if you call and shop around you could take care of everything for 1/3 of the total Stealership price. I’m In Massachusetts as well and live in the North Shore where there are plenty qualified Indy shops.
10-19-21, 07:39 PM
#118
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10-20-21, 09:05 AM
#119
Driver School Candidate
Active swaybar tuning?
Is there an aftermarket way to program the active roll control to add more rear swaybar stiffness? My 2012 GX with the coil spring suspension has a tremendous amount of understeer built in and I was wondering if there was a way to get a more neutral balance with just some simple programming. Thanks!
