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The MY20 has that "LASER WELDED SCREWS" tech that apparently results in a stronger frame in the RX. The GX launch has no such frame strengthening
Originally Posted by GX4602011
The RX has a uni-body like a front wheel drive car. The GX has a boxed frame, it's body is bolted on to it, like a truck.
They can laser weld and glue the frame of the RX to high heaven, it will not reach the level of strength and rigidity of the GX that a frame affords. Especially when the RX is based on a 20yr old platform. Out of all the Lexus vehicles that I have driven, 2008 ES, 2011 RX, 2011 ES, 2015 GS, 2017 LS460, the GX is by far the most solid and flex free Lexus vehicle I have driven. Wonder how the LX feels though.
The RX has a uni-body like a front wheel drive car. The GX has a boxed frame, it's body is bolted on to it, like a truck.
Originally Posted by situman
They can laser weld and glue the frame of the RX to high heaven, it will not reach the level of strength and rigidity of the GX that a frame affords. Especially when the RX is based on a 20yr old platform. Out of all the Lexus vehicles that I have driven, 2008 ES, 2011 RX, 2011 ES, 2015 GS, 2017 LS460, the GX is by far the most solid and flex free Lexus vehicle I have driven. Wonder how the LX feels though.
Without numbers comparing the two its hard to understand where each lies in terms of rigidity.
GX's has "unfashionably" high profile 60 - 18's (optional 19's coming in 2020) that ride rather better
than the standard "20 and optional "21 fitted with 50 section tires on the LX.
Without numbers comparing the two its hard to understand where each lies in terms of rigidity.
You cannot compare the two because the RX does not have a frame, it's a uni-body construction with the drive train and suspension bolted to the body. The GX has a boxed ladder frame, totally separate from the body. The drive train and axles bolt to the boxed ladder style frame, the GX body then sits on top of the frame.
Here's a good short video by Toyota explaining the difference:
You cannot compare the two because the RX does not have a frame, it's a uni-body construction with the drive train and suspension bolted to the body. The GX has a boxed ladder frame, totally separate from the body. The drive train and axles bolt to the boxed ladder style frame, the GX body then sits on top of the frame.
I dont think there is any confusion on the definitions of each. I`m simply stating that their are no numbers related to the "rigidity" in either case. Lexus claims the LSW improved the structural rigidity over the MY19 RX, but did not tell us what the structure originally was. Same thing with the GX, its BOF and its supposedly strong, but how strong numerically are we talking about? WIthout that. we are basically just going on company pr speak.
I dont think there is any confusion on the definitions of each. I`m simply stating that their are no numbers related to the "rigidity" in either case. Lexus claims the LSW improved the structural rigidity over the MY19 RX, but did not tell us what the structure originally was. Same thing with the GX, its BOF and its supposedly strong, but how strong numerically are we talking about? WIthout that. we are basically just going on company pr speak.
Before the video, your post indicated that you believed that the RX uses a frame by your post #14:
Originally Posted by coolsaber
The MY20 has that "LASER WELDED SCREWS" tech that apparently results in a stronger frame in the RX. The GX launch has no such frame strengthening
This is what I was focusing on when answering your post, to make sure you knew that there was a difference, the RX using uni-body and GX a ladder frame. Therefore comparing the two, criticizing the GX for not having "LASER WELDED SCREWS", was an illogical argument. Now that you know the difference from watching the Toyota video, reread @situmans post, #17 to answer your latest question above, comparing the structural rigidity of the RX versus the GX, he has the right answer.
With that, I am not criticizing the RX for having a uni-body at all. As the Toyota video mentions, each construction type have their role and one chooses the platform which they need or want.
Before the video, your post indicated that you believed that the RX uses a frame by your post #14:
This is what I was focusing on when answering your post, to make sure you knew that there was a difference, the RX using uni-body and GX a ladder frame. Therefore comparing the two, criticizing the GX for not having "LASER WELDED SCREWS", was an illogical argument. Now that you know the difference from watching the Toyota video, reread @situmans post, #17 to answer your latest question above, comparing the structural rigidity of the RX versus the GX, he has the right answer.
With that, I am not criticizing the RX for having a uni-body at all. As the Toyota video mentions, each construction type have their role and one chooses the platform which they need or want.
Sorry for the confusion, I was responding to the previous posters RX first drive, of responsive and better feeling vehicle in the MY20. It still does not answer the question of how strong each frame/chassis is numerically speaking. Unibody or BOF numbers would be appreciated.to make the final conclusion that the RX is structurally more rigid then a GX.or vice versa
in addition, the idea behind pointing out the RX vs GX differences, is the basic idea that the MY20 RX is basically a proper refresh, while the GX refresh is a minor change.
Sorry for the confusion, I was responding to the previous posters RX first drive, of responsive and better feeling vehicle in the MY20. It still does not answer the question of how strong each frame/chassis is numerically speaking. Unibody or BOF numbers would be appreciated.to make the final conclusion that the RX is structurally more rigid then a GX.or vice versa
in addition, the idea behind pointing out the RX vs GX differences, is the basic idea that the MY20 RX is basically a proper refresh, while the GX refresh is a minor change.
Numbers can be fudged just like acceleration times, power, emissions and etc. Personal experience is something that can't be fudged, but it can be biased though. And then logically speaking, all tow, haul and offroad vehicles is a BOF.
Numbers can be fudged just like acceleration times, power, emissions and etc. Personal experience is something that can't be fudged, but it can be biased though. And then logically speaking, all tow, haul and offroad vehicles is a BOF.
If off-roading or towing or just a workhorse, then BOF is ideal.
If highway cruiser and you need fuel efficiency and crash safety, then UNIBODY is ideal...if everything else being equal.
Inclinometer built into terrain monitor system. There is also a tire slippage display that shows tires yellow if they are slipping
Under vehicle display is a time delayed image that is a point approximately 10 ft behind the current vehicle position. Just scanning the docs for info.
It doesn't appear you will be able to turn on MTS Mud/Sand in 4H anymore.
08-23-19 | 02:21 AM
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