Used Purchase/Shopping Questions & Discussions - CPO / Dealers / Private Party
03-26-20, 06:53 AM
#466
Driver School Candidate
Most dealerships have the 161 point checklist. They give a blank checklist to the 18 year old kid that washes (i.e. scratches) the car and tell him to check the car out.
The flunky walks around the car once and goes into the breakroom to drink a soda (or maybe a beer). While he's having his drink, he checks off the blocks. For those sections that require numbers, he makes them up.
A half hour later he walks up to the used car guy, hands him (almost always a he) the form and says "all done".
The flunky walks around the car once and goes into the breakroom to drink a soda (or maybe a beer). While he's having his drink, he checks off the blocks. For those sections that require numbers, he makes them up.
A half hour later he walks up to the used car guy, hands him (almost always a he) the form and says "all done".
03-26-20, 08:41 AM
#467
Pole Position
One more time...
CPO or not, suckers are those who take the dealer at its word. Duh.
I'm in favor of a double-check at an independent shop...a shop that's not involved in the deal. Drop another $100 or so and avoid surprises later.
CPO or not, suckers are those who take the dealer at its word. Duh.
I'm in favor of a double-check at an independent shop...a shop that's not involved in the deal. Drop another $100 or so and avoid surprises later.
03-26-20, 10:59 AM
#468
I'd shop up and, how should I put it?...candidly discuss my issues with the service manager and GSM if necessary.
PO may have been shaky with body work as he knew he was dumping the car and didn't need a spooky Carfax, or Lexus service records. Speaking of which, did you get a copy of the service records from the dealer or Lexus.com's owners website? If not, IMO that' homework. Other than the so called "161 point inspection", did you do a pre-purchase inspection with a shop not a part to the sale? If not, a post-purchase agreement is homework...find a good indy shop and go there.
I have no idea of your state's bring-back policy.
Good luck.
PO may have been shaky with body work as he knew he was dumping the car and didn't need a spooky Carfax, or Lexus service records. Speaking of which, did you get a copy of the service records from the dealer or Lexus.com's owners website? If not, IMO that' homework. Other than the so called "161 point inspection", did you do a pre-purchase inspection with a shop not a part to the sale? If not, a post-purchase agreement is homework...find a good indy shop and go there.
I have no idea of your state's bring-back policy.
Good luck.
The Lexus in question is a CPO. Lexus CPO has a pretty good reputation of making people happy. The OP just bought the car, if he calls up the salesman and bring it back with a list of issues. They will at least make him happy so we will confidently give them the perfect survey score they want. The CPO = "inspection" and a warranty. Use the warranty.
I'd just tell them "I was too excited to check every single thing on the GX at delivery. I'd think a Lexus CPO should be close to perfect so I trusted that. Can you please look at these issues and fix them?" I am pretty sure that they will do. Just ask them nicely, don't make a scene. It's a newly bought car.
If they refuse, you'd have 2 choice:
1. Bring it to another Lexus dealer. The other Lexus dealer would love to win you over if they can make you happy. Trust me.
2. Call Lexus.
I doubt you'd need to go this far though.
Last edited by hadokenuh; 03-26-20 at 11:06 AM.
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csrpenfab (03-26-20)
03-27-20, 04:49 AM
#469
Super Moderator
Used Purchase - CPO / Dealers / Private Party
Let's see how this works by keeping pre/post purchase deals of "used" 460s in this thread.
Model Year Changes
Cross Shopping Questions here
Model Year Changes
Cross Shopping Questions here
Last edited by Acrad; 03-27-20 at 04:53 AM.
03-27-20, 06:41 AM
#471
Super Moderator
I am thinking what someone paid or "what is the better deal" between various used 460s being shopped.
EDIT: If this ends up being a bad idea I will unstick and let thread age out.
EDIT: If this ends up being a bad idea I will unstick and let thread age out.
Last edited by Acrad; 03-27-20 at 06:46 AM.
03-27-20, 07:02 AM
#472
Lead Lap
Nice idea, the 200s have a "most recent 200 price paid" on Mud.. So nice to see a similar concept here.
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03-27-20, 07:45 AM
#473
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I'll start....
Purchase price in Nov 2018: 50,500 + ttl (MSRP as ordered was 70K + ttl in May 2017)
Mileage at purchase: < 17,000
Previous owners:1 (was 18 months old when we purchased it and was being driven by the owner of the selling dealer as her demo)
Accidents: No/ Clean Carfax
Condition: Like New/ Showroom
Purchase price in Nov 2018: 50,500 + ttl (MSRP as ordered was 70K + ttl in May 2017)
Mileage at purchase: < 17,000
Previous owners:1 (was 18 months old when we purchased it and was being driven by the owner of the selling dealer as her demo)
Accidents: No/ Clean Carfax
Condition: Like New/ Showroom
03-27-20, 06:06 PM
#474
2012, Silver - Premium
Listed: 23,999 + fees/taxes 26,XXX
Mileage at purchase: < 73,XXX
Previous owners: 2, first owner had it from new until the middle of 2019, then someone had it for under four months
Accidents: No/Clean Carfax
Condition: Fair condition, this was a bit of an emotional/frustrated purchase, I didnt take my time to look over the vehicle and missed some questionable areas. right now i just want to pay it off and find one from the south...feel as though I paid a little more than its worth.
Listed: 23,999 + fees/taxes 26,XXX
Mileage at purchase: < 73,XXX
Previous owners: 2, first owner had it from new until the middle of 2019, then someone had it for under four months
Accidents: No/Clean Carfax
Condition: Fair condition, this was a bit of an emotional/frustrated purchase, I didnt take my time to look over the vehicle and missed some questionable areas. right now i just want to pay it off and find one from the south...feel as though I paid a little more than its worth.
Last edited by WRD4chano; 03-28-20 at 07:28 AM.
03-27-20, 07:24 PM
#475
Lead Lap
Listed: 23,999 + fees/taxes 26,XXX
Mileage at purchase: < 73,XXX
Previous owners: 2, first owner had it from new until the middle of 2019, then someone had it for under four months
Accidents: No/Clean Carfax
Condition: Fair condition, this was a bit of an emotional/frustrated purchase, I didnt take my time to look over the vehicle and missed some questionable areas. right now i just want to pay it off and find one from the south...feel as though I paid a little more than its worth.
Mileage at purchase: < 73,XXX
Previous owners: 2, first owner had it from new until the middle of 2019, then someone had it for under four months
Accidents: No/Clean Carfax
Condition: Fair condition, this was a bit of an emotional/frustrated purchase, I didnt take my time to look over the vehicle and missed some questionable areas. right now i just want to pay it off and find one from the south...feel as though I paid a little more than its worth.
03-28-20, 07:27 AM
#476
03-28-20, 08:01 AM
#477
Looking for a Slightly Used GX
Hey Folks! I'm looking for a 2017-2018 GX with <45K miles. Most of my early shopping/research has been online due to COVID.
I am wondering about opinions regarding cars from the Rust Belt? I am in GA and obviously no salt/snow here but curious if 2-3 winters in the northeast would be enough to make people not buy? Obviously I will look in person at truck before purchase and climb underneath to visualize, but I was interested to see if 3 years would have a huge impact.
Thoughts??
I am wondering about opinions regarding cars from the Rust Belt? I am in GA and obviously no salt/snow here but curious if 2-3 winters in the northeast would be enough to make people not buy? Obviously I will look in person at truck before purchase and climb underneath to visualize, but I was interested to see if 3 years would have a huge impact.
Thoughts??
03-28-20, 08:07 AM
#478
Hey Folks! I'm looking for a 2017-2018 GX with <45K miles. Most of my early shopping/research has been online due to COVID.
I am wondering about opinions regarding cars from the Rust Belt? I am in GA and obviously no salt/snow here but curious if 2-3 winters in the northeast would be enough to make people not buy? Obviously I will look in person at truck before purchase and climb underneath to visualize, but I was interested to see if 3 years would have a huge impact.
Thoughts??
I am wondering about opinions regarding cars from the Rust Belt? I am in GA and obviously no salt/snow here but curious if 2-3 winters in the northeast would be enough to make people not buy? Obviously I will look in person at truck before purchase and climb underneath to visualize, but I was interested to see if 3 years would have a huge impact.
Thoughts??
03-28-20, 08:19 AM
#479
Lead Lap
Ih8muds got a good classified section with folks who are extra nitpicky and uber knowledgeable about specific rust prone areas
Usually a good southern or cali car are great buys. I`d skip Florida cars. Northeast or northern cars if they werent really rustproofed or such will have surface rust at the good end, to straight up rot.
Either way, before you purchase get it on a lift, or if your communicating from a distance, ask the seller for underbody pictures.
Usually a good southern or cali car are great buys. I`d skip Florida cars. Northeast or northern cars if they werent really rustproofed or such will have surface rust at the good end, to straight up rot.
Either way, before you purchase get it on a lift, or if your communicating from a distance, ask the seller for underbody pictures.
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WRD4chano (03-28-20)
03-28-20, 09:04 AM
#480
Driver School Candidate
I drove a very nice 2016 blk on blk luxury with 32000 miles one owner a couple of weeks ago at Arrowhead lexus in peoria arizona, long drive , it was great except they wanted $41000. Maybe price was ok but to me it seemed high.