Cross-shopping
09-02-20, 07:37 AM
#182
Lead Lap
ML only on Luxury, right?
09-02-20, 07:57 AM
#183
For MY '21 ML can be had with the Prem Plus package. Looks like P+ is only $1,700 more than P - that seems totally worth it ( P+ also includes power 3rd row) The base stereo is the main thing I don't like about our GX.
(prob already listed elsewhere but here are the packages and prices https://www.lexus.com/models/GX/packages)
(prob already listed elsewhere but here are the packages and prices https://www.lexus.com/models/GX/packages)
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09-02-20, 02:54 PM
#184
Lead Lap
Nissan Armada is garbage. Don't even shop that. No offense, but we rented one for our Florida vacation this summer. 1,600 miles later. Terrible.
GX is the way to go. Although $58K OTD seems high. You can get lower that that. My 2020 GX with Sport package was stickered at $60,500. Out the door was $54K...keeping in mind before taxes and licenses and fees we were at $51,500, with all the incentives back in April.
GX is the way to go. Although $58K OTD seems high. You can get lower that that. My 2020 GX with Sport package was stickered at $60,500. Out the door was $54K...keeping in mind before taxes and licenses and fees we were at $51,500, with all the incentives back in April.
09-02-20, 03:10 PM
#185
Driver School Candidate
For MY '21 ML can be had with the Prem Plus package. Looks like P+ is only $1,700 more than P - that seems totally worth it ( P+ also includes power 3rd row) The base stereo is the main thing I don't like about our GX.
(prob already listed elsewhere but here are the packages and prices https://www.lexus.com/models/GX/packages)
(prob already listed elsewhere but here are the packages and prices https://www.lexus.com/models/GX/packages)
09-02-20, 04:19 PM
#186
I am not a new car buyer, but yeah, if I was, there is no way I am getting a GX without the ML. Not even sure that the ML is so great, it is just that the base is really pretty bad (IMO). I have the base stereo in my '07 IS250 and even though I am sure the ML for the IS is better sounding than base, it wouldn't be worth it to me to pay for the upgrade. But in the GX, I can't see not getting it. Sort of shocking that they sell the Luxury without it. My base '13 GX has the power third row seats and the Semi-aniline leather seating, and power side mirrors, but I would easily give that all up for the ML.
With the Prem Plus, I think the GX becomes way more interesting as a new car purchase if you can afford it.
With the Prem Plus, I think the GX becomes way more interesting as a new car purchase if you can afford it.
09-02-20, 06:41 PM
#187
I am not a new car buyer, but yeah, if I was, there is no way I am getting a GX without the ML. Not even sure that the ML is so great, it is just that the base is really pretty bad (IMO). I have the base stereo in my '07 IS250 and even though I am sure the ML for the IS is better sounding than base, it wouldn't be worth it to me to pay for the upgrade. But in the GX, I can't see not getting it. Sort of shocking that they sell the Luxury without it. My base '13 GX has the power third row seats and the Semi-aniline leather seating, and power side mirrors, but I would easily give that all up for the ML.
With the Prem Plus, I think the GX becomes way more interesting as a new car purchase if you can afford it.
With the Prem Plus, I think the GX becomes way more interesting as a new car purchase if you can afford it.
im more concerned about the brakes and seat lumbar in the ride. Still hate the mushy brakes and it took me a long time to get used to/break in the seats.
09-02-20, 07:27 PM
#188
i don’t need bass. I listen to talk radio country and jazz. The stock stereo is fine and not worth the $1700 IMO. I can’t get a 2021 in my timeframe plus I doubt that they will have the same deals on 2021 as 2020. When I shopped I saw 2020s flooded in NJ dealers.
im more concerned about the brakes and seat lumbar in the ride. Still hate the mushy brakes and it took me a long time to get used to/break in the seats.
im more concerned about the brakes and seat lumbar in the ride. Still hate the mushy brakes and it took me a long time to get used to/break in the seats.
09-02-20, 07:41 PM
#189
Lead Lap
XM, am/fm, pandora, or mp3s etc are not gonna offer anything over the base.
Seats, well thats nothing you really can do about that. The seat cushion design is archaic and comfort conveniences are non existent. Thankfully its the not the bottom of the barrel of Lexus seats (that award goes to the IS/NX F sport seats).
09-02-20, 07:47 PM
#190
Seat cushion/pads - it doesn't make it great, and kinda ruins the Lux vibe, but it helps. Plus it helps keep the Ecru from turning blue. 
09-02-20, 08:12 PM
#191
Lead Lap
09-03-20, 05:25 AM
#192
Lead Lap
With regards to my Armada quote. Something about their seating, very uncomfortable to me. Every Nissan I have ever driven feels the same way. I also don’t like their fake transmission, which apparently is a very common problem. Feels cheap to me.
09-03-20, 08:52 AM
#193
Lead Lap
So the seating was bad. Was the 8 speed regular transmission (non cvt) and 5.7L naturally aspirated V8 bad as well? Did the rental have any of the safety kit or 360 cameras?
09-04-20, 03:23 PM
#194
Lead Lap
Okay man, you like Nissan. Congrats. I do not. Enjoy your car.
