Cross-shopping
05-26-21, 07:32 AM
#226
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Get what your heart desires. If it doesnt work out, well its a lease and a relatively cheap lesson. Looks like LR artificially jacked up the residual to make the lease more palatable. No way that thing is worth 60% after 3yrs. You gotta be some kind of a fool to pay that much for a used LR.
05-26-21, 08:03 AM
#227
I own a 21 GX. Had to rent a car last week and rented Land Rover Sport supercharged, 20,000 miles. WOW power, sport feel! Day 2 the enitre dashboard went dark and folded up as I was driving - 6 separate times! No radio, no loghts, no signals, nothing, I recorded video to prove it to the rental company. I loved the LR and years ago almost bought one, but really?!!? I wouldn't trust it for any long distand or remote trips only to and from work. Beautiful vehicles, I knew they had a history of issues maybe electrical issues but dam.
Ugh, it seems like you folks have me convinced to possibly play it safe and just go with a GX. I'll check out inventory locally. I think the good news with the GX is if the new one comes out (or a new LX comes out) before my lease is up they'll give me some preferential treatment for trading it in early. "Ugh" because it's not what my heart wants, but it's what my mind says is right. Ultimately if I was single and didn't have family to worry about I'd go with the LR, but dealing with a car breaking down, or even multiple visits to a dealership to swap a car and get a loaner is the type of time/stress I don't need in my life right now.
Really appreciate everyone's thoughts here. You've all been very helpful. I'm wondering what the outcome would have been had I posted in a LR forum
05-26-21, 08:12 AM
#228
Get what your heart desires. If it doesnt work out, well its a lease and a relatively cheap lesson. Looks like LR artificially jacked up the residual to make the lease more palatable. No way that thing is worth 60% after 3yrs. You gotta be some kind of a fool to pay that much for a used LR.
05-26-21, 08:49 AM
#229
Pole Position
Loving these replies! First, with the two videos - the first one.. I wish the guy had actually driven the cars and compared a few things wrt how they feel and overall livability. WRT the second one, it made me laugh and really makes me worry about random things going wrong (infotainment, and in their case engine). I don't really blame the winch issue on JLR, that just sounds like poor training on the part of the dealership.
Ugh, it seems like you folks have me convinced to possibly play it safe and just go with a GX. I'll check out inventory locally. I think the good news with the GX is if the new one comes out (or a new LX comes out) before my lease is up they'll give me some preferential treatment for trading it in early. "Ugh" because it's not what my heart wants, but it's what my mind says is right. Ultimately if I was single and didn't have family to worry about I'd go with the LR, but dealing with a car breaking down, or even multiple visits to a dealership to swap a car and get a loaner is the type of time/stress I don't need in my life right now.
Really appreciate everyone's thoughts here. You've all been very helpful. I'm wondering what the outcome would have been had I posted in a LR forum
Ugh, it seems like you folks have me convinced to possibly play it safe and just go with a GX. I'll check out inventory locally. I think the good news with the GX is if the new one comes out (or a new LX comes out) before my lease is up they'll give me some preferential treatment for trading it in early. "Ugh" because it's not what my heart wants, but it's what my mind says is right. Ultimately if I was single and didn't have family to worry about I'd go with the LR, but dealing with a car breaking down, or even multiple visits to a dealership to swap a car and get a loaner is the type of time/stress I don't need in my life right now.
Really appreciate everyone's thoughts here. You've all been very helpful. I'm wondering what the outcome would have been had I posted in a LR forum
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CFAI (05-26-21)
05-26-21, 09:19 AM
#230
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05-26-21, 09:48 AM
#231
That's a good point. I haven't driven the GX in over 5 years and just assumed my experience from 5 years ago will translate to what I want and my comfort today. I'll make sure to take one for a spin before making the call. Ultimately though I do know that I won't be disappointed with Lexus, even if there are little things that may bother me (seat comfort, third row taking up space). But point taken on driving it more and giving it a proper test drive like I did all the new contenders.
05-26-21, 10:26 AM
#232
That video is insane, it's amazing what people will buy if it's "cute" even if its a pile of junk.
If Land Rover was smart, they'd find a larger company they could farm all of the drivetrain development out to and just build the coach works/body and interior themselves. Have a reliable platform with a unique and upscale look. Sort of what Rolls Royce did for a lot of their parts like they'd have a GM transmission.
If Land Rover was smart, they'd find a larger company they could farm all of the drivetrain development out to and just build the coach works/body and interior themselves. Have a reliable platform with a unique and upscale look. Sort of what Rolls Royce did for a lot of their parts like they'd have a GM transmission.
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05-26-21, 10:46 AM
#233
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That video is insane, it's amazing what people will buy if it's "cute" even if its a pile of junk.
If Land Rover was smart, they'd find a larger company they could farm all of the drivetrain development out to and just build the coach works/body and interior themselves. Have a reliable platform with a unique and upscale look. Sort of what Rolls Royce did for a lot of their parts like they'd have a GM transmission.
If Land Rover was smart, they'd find a larger company they could farm all of the drivetrain development out to and just build the coach works/body and interior themselves. Have a reliable platform with a unique and upscale look. Sort of what Rolls Royce did for a lot of their parts like they'd have a GM transmission.
05-26-21, 11:06 AM
#234
Example of the reliability of the Defender, might not even make a good lease...
https://youtu.be/mkpB8okB-xw
https://youtu.be/mkpB8okB-xw
05-26-21, 01:43 PM
#235
However, this is a review after they got it sorted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99wi9Q5G0LI
Personally, I wouldn't get a LR (no shocker, doubt there are many on this board that would), but OP isn't me, and should test drive the GX and then get whatever they will be most excited about. If you decide you really want the LR, but are worried about reliability (very very reasonable), double check your state's lemon law and make sure it covers you under a lease, and if not what you need them the sign to get you covered. And if it lemon law won't cover you then go get a G Wagon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99wi9Q5G0LI
Personally, I wouldn't get a LR (no shocker, doubt there are many on this board that would), but OP isn't me, and should test drive the GX and then get whatever they will be most excited about. If you decide you really want the LR, but are worried about reliability (very very reasonable), double check your state's lemon law and make sure it covers you under a lease, and if not what you need them the sign to get you covered. And if it lemon law won't cover you then go get a G Wagon
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CFAI (05-26-21)
05-26-21, 03:53 PM
#236
I really like all the comments, just add one I read it here from clublexus:
If you want to go into the Australian Outback, take a Land Rover. But if you want to come back again, take a Land Cruiser.”
If you want to go into the Australian Outback, take a Land Rover. But if you want to come back again, take a Land Cruiser.”
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05-27-21, 01:31 PM
#237
Closing the loop (ok maybe second last message to closing the loop as I'll post a pic when I get the car).
Finalized the details on the GX460 I'll be getting. Black on Sephia (not a fan of Sephia but the other options were light coloured cars) with the Exec package. There is only one other trim offered and availability on that is also low. Got a decent trade in on my car, and should be getting the new vehicle Monday. You all moved me pretty fast from "Hey I want to get a Defender!" to "I'm getting a car that was developed when GW Bush was President!" pretty fast. Thanks for all your help and nudges.
Finalized the details on the GX460 I'll be getting. Black on Sephia (not a fan of Sephia but the other options were light coloured cars) with the Exec package. There is only one other trim offered and availability on that is also low. Got a decent trade in on my car, and should be getting the new vehicle Monday. You all moved me pretty fast from "Hey I want to get a Defender!" to "I'm getting a car that was developed when GW Bush was President!" pretty fast. Thanks for all your help and nudges.
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MrTorgue (05-28-21)
05-27-21, 01:46 PM
#239
Closing the loop (ok maybe second last message to closing the loop as I'll post a pic when I get the car).
Finalized the details on the GX460 I'll be getting. Black on Sephia (not a fan of Sephia but the other options were light coloured cars) with the Exec package. There is only one other trim offered and availability on that is also low. Got a decent trade in on my car, and should be getting the new vehicle Monday. You all moved me pretty fast from "Hey I want to get a Defender!" to "I'm getting a car that was developed when GW Bush was President!" pretty fast. Thanks for all your help and nudges.
Finalized the details on the GX460 I'll be getting. Black on Sephia (not a fan of Sephia but the other options were light coloured cars) with the Exec package. There is only one other trim offered and availability on that is also low. Got a decent trade in on my car, and should be getting the new vehicle Monday. You all moved me pretty fast from "Hey I want to get a Defender!" to "I'm getting a car that was developed when GW Bush was President!" pretty fast. Thanks for all your help and nudges.
