Cross-shopping
03-05-20, 03:38 PM
#121
The Palisade is probably the only other option we’re really considering but supply is limited and some dealers are marking them up and I unwilling to pay markup on any vehicle. Heck, I won’t even pay MSRP for that matter.
If we went the minivan route I’d probably be in the market for a new wife not long after; and, driving a minivan might make finding a new wife more challenging so I don’t see that happening...
03-05-20, 03:43 PM
#122
Though I do enjoy driving my wife's Cayenne S for the performance, that thing has been nothing but headaches since the extended warranty ended about a year ago. Be happy you're moving on before it's too late 
Whenever I turn the key, I basically say a little prayer in my head, asking it to turn on without a new warning light or clunking noise. So far we've had to replace the transfer case at around 40k, the rear hatch motor/module, a couple faulty brake sensors, and now the thing keeps throwing a fan error where it kicks the cooling fans up and sounds like I'm driving an F-18 when I go through a parking garage. The Bose amp is starting to cut out now as well, and it burns a ton of oil (which is said to be normal in the owner's manual). Always maintained by Porsche, and always right on time too. Her '05 Cayenne was far worse, however. We're currently looking at the 2020 GX to replace my GS460 (need an SUV for future kiddos, Houston flooding, and the awful road quality down here), and an LX570 to replace her Cayenne. Though I'm antsy, I'm probably going to wait for 2022 to pick up the GX, that way I can take advantage of the depreciation. As others have said, don't bother with a CPO from Lexus... With all the markups and nonsense, you're better off just buying new.
Maybe this will help some. Definitely take the numbers with a grain of salt, but it seems fairly accurate from the searching I've done:
https://usedfirst.com/cars/lexus/gx-460/
Whenever I turn the key, I basically say a little prayer in my head, asking it to turn on without a new warning light or clunking noise. So far we've had to replace the transfer case at around 40k, the rear hatch motor/module, a couple faulty brake sensors, and now the thing keeps throwing a fan error where it kicks the cooling fans up and sounds like I'm driving an F-18 when I go through a parking garage. The Bose amp is starting to cut out now as well, and it burns a ton of oil (which is said to be normal in the owner's manual). Always maintained by Porsche, and always right on time too. Her '05 Cayenne was far worse, however. We're currently looking at the 2020 GX to replace my GS460 (need an SUV for future kiddos, Houston flooding, and the awful road quality down here), and an LX570 to replace her Cayenne. Though I'm antsy, I'm probably going to wait for 2022 to pick up the GX, that way I can take advantage of the depreciation. As others have said, don't bother with a CPO from Lexus... With all the markups and nonsense, you're better off just buying new.Maybe this will help some. Definitely take the numbers with a grain of salt, but it seems fairly accurate from the searching I've done:
https://usedfirst.com/cars/lexus/gx-460/
03-05-20, 05:02 PM
#123
Gx is not for everyone. If you Are used to german luxury brand, it is hard to get out of it and jump in to outdated Japanese brand
03-06-20, 06:49 AM
#124
Lead Lap
If the CPO and non-CPO are close enough in price, you might as well pick up a CPO and get their warranty with it. As others have said on this forum time and time again, it's not the best warranty, but it beats not having one at all. As much as I miss having the extended warranty on the Cayenne, there was no way I was going to pay close to $7,000 for 2 more years... Sort of a blessing in disguise though, because now I know how to do most of the maintenance on the thing. Still surprised at how much cheap, brittle plastic there is under the hood of a car that's over $70k new.
03-06-20, 06:56 AM
#125
Driver School Candidate
Wait for the third kid to arrive and then observe your wife transforming into the biggest minivan groupie ever. Ask me how I know....
03-06-20, 07:05 AM
#126
Lead Lap
Trust me. It is easier said than done. I have been in the same situation as yours where I had e70 X5 diesel and i miss it dearly especially 500 miles on tank i got on mixed driving. Unfortunately it got totalled and started shopping for another SUV and landed on the Gx after all comparisions I made and trying to make sense that is the right approach. There are things that cannot be measured which is driving pleasure.
Gx is not for everyone. If you Are used to german luxury brand, it is hard to get out of it and jump in to outdated Japanese brand
Gx is not for everyone. If you Are used to german luxury brand, it is hard to get out of it and jump in to outdated Japanese brand
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03-06-20, 07:07 AM
#127
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Chaos236 (03-19-20)
03-06-20, 05:51 PM
#128
03-06-20, 06:01 PM
#129
If the CPO and non-CPO are close enough in price, you might as well pick up a CPO and get their warranty with it. As others have said on this forum time and time again, it's not the best warranty, but it beats not having one at all. As much as I miss having the extended warranty on the Cayenne, there was no way I was going to pay close to $7,000 for 2 more years... Sort of a blessing in disguise though, because now I know how to do most of the maintenance on the thing. Still surprised at how much cheap, brittle plastic there is under the hood of a car that's over $70k new.
We got "lucky" in a sense that due to the VW diesel emissions issues, Porsche gave extended warranties on the diesels. Realistically, that hasn't meant much though because it's actually been pretty low maintenance.
03-06-20, 08:11 PM
#130
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We looked at a GMC Acadia, not bad. Drove a Kia Telluride, very nice, but when the dealer wanted 3 grand over list, which put it at 50 grand, I walked. Volkswagen Atlas was ok, but we didn’t care for the interior. The Subaru Ascent was nice, but I’m not a fan of CVT’s. Ford Explorer didn’t do much for me. At the end of the day, I thought about that my wife has owned 4 Rx’s and we have had no problems. I have drove a truck most of my life and was coming out of a Silverado, so when I drove the GX, it felt more like a truck, which for me is a plus. It also has a V8, which I like, and a low range transfer case and full time four wheel drive, which was a must. I have heard people say it needs to be updated, but for me, I like it just like it is. So far, I’m well pleased with my choice.
03-07-20, 03:08 PM
#131
Driver School Candidate
We have a 2019 GX and needed another SUV in the family. I was really thinking I wanted the 2020 GX because of the exterior change and the added safety features. I was shopping it against the 2020 4runner TRD PRO and I must say ( don't shoot me) that we decided to add the 4runner TRD PRO to the garage with the 19 GX. The 4runner has a better infotainment (apple car play) and the same safety as the GX. It was really a tough call but I could not see the extra cost for the GX with very little changes to the interior. We are a Lexus or Toyota family so not much to choose from. I will not own anything else. Resale and reliability second to none...
03-07-20, 03:35 PM
#132
Driver School Candidate
We have a 2019 GX and needed another SUV in the family. I was really thinking I wanted the 2020 GX because of the exterior change and the added safety features. I was shopping it against the 2020 4runner TRD PRO and I must say ( don't shoot me) that we decided to add the 4runner TRD PRO to the garage with the 19 GX. The 4runner has a better infotainment (apple car play) and the same safety as the GX. It was really a tough call but I could not see the extra cost for the GX with very little changes to the interior. We are a Lexus or Toyota family so not much to choose from. I will not own anything else. Resale and reliability second to none...
03-19-20, 10:36 AM
#133
We looked at a GMC Acadia, not bad. Drove a Kia Telluride, very nice, but when the dealer wanted 3 grand over list, which put it at 50 grand, I walked. Volkswagen Atlas was ok, but we didn’t care for the interior. The Subaru Ascent was nice, but I’m not a fan of CVT’s. Ford Explorer didn’t do much for me. At the end of the day, I thought about that my wife has owned 4 Rx’s and we have had no problems. I have drove a truck most of my life and was coming out of a Silverado, so when I drove the GX, it felt more like a truck, which for me is a plus. It also has a V8, which I like, and a low range transfer case and full time four wheel drive, which was a must. I have heard people say it needs to be updated, but for me, I like it just like it is. So far, I’m well pleased with my choice.
We have a 2019 GX and needed another SUV in the family. I was really thinking I wanted the 2020 GX because of the exterior change and the added safety features. I was shopping it against the 2020 4runner TRD PRO and I must say ( don't shoot me) that we decided to add the 4runner TRD PRO to the garage with the 19 GX. The 4runner has a better infotainment (apple car play) and the same safety as the GX. It was really a tough call but I could not see the extra cost for the GX with very little changes to the interior. We are a Lexus or Toyota family so not much to choose from. I will not own anything else. Resale and reliability second to none...
) but my wife prefer a little more "luxury" which would make the GX a fair compromise.
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03-19-20, 10:45 AM
#134
We checked out some GXs last weekend and after spending some time in a couple, my wife won't go for it (again). So, see y'all in another 6.5-7 years... haha
Although it would realistically end up being mine in a year or so, she'd still be the primary driver in that interim period and she really just doesn't dig the interior. I can't argue that point but I still held out hopes she'd go along with it!
Hopefully if/when the GX gets a real redesign it'll be something to consider again as I like it for what it is - assuming it doesn't become another cross-over! haha
Although it would realistically end up being mine in a year or so, she'd still be the primary driver in that interim period and she really just doesn't dig the interior. I can't argue that point but I still held out hopes she'd go along with it!
Hopefully if/when the GX gets a real redesign it'll be something to consider again as I like it for what it is - assuming it doesn't become another cross-over! haha
03-19-20, 11:10 AM
#135
We checked out some GXs last weekend and after spending some time in a couple, my wife won't go for it (again). So, see y'all in another 6.5-7 years... haha
Although it would realistically end up being mine in a year or so, she'd still be the primary driver in that interim period and she really just doesn't dig the interior. I can't argue that point but I still held out hopes she'd go along with it!
Hopefully if/when the GX gets a real redesign it'll be something to consider again as I like it for what it is - assuming it doesn't become another cross-over! haha
Although it would realistically end up being mine in a year or so, she'd still be the primary driver in that interim period and she really just doesn't dig the interior. I can't argue that point but I still held out hopes she'd go along with it!
Hopefully if/when the GX gets a real redesign it'll be something to consider again as I like it for what it is - assuming it doesn't become another cross-over! haha
What vehicle are you going to consider then?