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2010-2013 OEM Radio, Stereo, Navigation Problems, Questions, Updates

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Old 08-15-18, 09:23 AM
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Hi All. At first I thought I was hearing things, then my family backed me up. The volume from the radio goes up and down by its self. At first I thought it was tied to the speed, but it changes at very different times. Does anyone know what would cause this? The dealership thinks I'm nuts!
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What is the source? AM/FM/CD/Bluetooth?
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What year? Do you have the ML?
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It happens when am/fm cd is being used. I do not have the ML.
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Sorry... don't know what to think on that...

Does the volume number on the infotainment screen actually change intensity level on the screen? Is the volume **** loose in anyway? Maybe steering wheel controls are actuating through some short or again faulty connection there?
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Default Wonder what life is of automotive hard drives?

Just curious how long these automative grade platter hard drives last in the '10-13 Infotainment units? The maps are updated at dealer via a Firewire 800 port above the gas pedal area.

They just hold the maps in the 460 AFAIK... but maybe some other data is on there as well. I haven't delved into it.

I wish the HD could also store ripped music like my old '2007 G35x does. In that vehicle 40GB is partitioned 30GB maps and 10GB music. That car doesn't even have a USB port but an old school full sized Compact Flash slot you use for portable music.

I think the '10-'13 460 drive is just a 30 or 40GB model as well




I thought I read someone doing a SSD swap on that car. My G is now over 11 years old on the stock hard drive so hope the one in 460 lasts a good long time too.

Probably not a big deal these days with all the other music options.... hoping a failed HD doesn't kill off any other functionality than navigation.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...t-New-40GB-HDD

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Old 08-17-18, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Acrad35751
Just curious how long these automative grade platter hard drives last in the '10-13 Infotainment units? The maps are updated at dealer via a Firewire 800 port above the gas pedal area.

They just hold the maps in the 460 AFAIK... but maybe some other data is on there as well. I haven't delved into it.

I wish the HD could also store ripped music like my old '2007 G35x does. In that vehicle 40GB is partitioned 30GB maps and 10GB music. That car doesn't even have a USB port but an old school full sized Compact Flash slot you use for portable music.

I think the '10-'13 460 drive is just a 30 or 40GB model as well




I thought I read someone doing a SSD swap on that car. My G is now over 11 years old on the stock hard drive so hope the one in 460 lasts a good long time too.

Probably not a big deal these days with all the other music options.... hoping a failed HD doesn't kill off any other functionality than navigation.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...t-New-40GB-HDD
HD drive will last same as ones in desktop computers. It has special vibration proof mounting like that of Panasonic Toughbooks. And think about CD/DVD drive they never skip playing disc. Fire wire gave a way
USB for now. When I had Audi I could import music on to HD and they call it juke box. Also it has two SD card slots plus MMI connector where one can plug in a specific adapter. My MB SUV has one SD card slot,
USB port, CD/DVD player holds 6 disc. One large capacity SD card can hold lot of music. I created folders for different category of music and pick and choose what I want to listen. Seldom use CD/DVD player.
To connect smart phoe I use USB-lightning adapter for iPhone. I notice only OEM adapter works properly.


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I've seen those Toughbooks in pre-SSD times take a lot of abuse too. Throw them on the floor kind of testing and still work fine.
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Hmm, I never thought about the GX having a disk drive or solid state drive. The truck is built to go well beyond 300K miles so I hope the the electronics will do the same.
I know cost is a factor but SSD is the way to go with longevity and performance.
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Most HDD (CF cards) failures were due to constantly writes/reads (think of gaming or big data crunching systems). Since the ones in the GX are mostly use for reads and rarely any writes, I would say they will last a while.
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Looks like PATA HDD and not SATA from diagram and relatively easy to service. The ones in the Nissan/Infiniti's require a complete disassembly of the infotainment unit with more screws than I care to count.

It looks like some user level data is on the drive besides maps. I would assume one would have to pay the dealer to reload the maps.



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This model seems to come up a lot as one possibly used.

https://www.hgst.com/sites/default/f...0_N4K100_0.pdf

Dirt cheap less than $20 these days.

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I'm sure the aftermarket will have a solution if widespread failures are an issue down the road.

As an example, I have an older "lifetime" subscription TiVo unit that I wanted to keep using, a company has pre-formatted hard drives made for them they can sell you for people that want to keep them going.

My guess is though on cars they'll last a really long time, they don't have the write cycles a desktop/laptop user would have.
I know it's not apples to apples, but there's lots of cars with computer electronics from like the early 1980's still working fine. So 40+ years.

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Thats a surprise for sure, wasnt the nickname for the endurostars the "deathstar" line up of garbage. If thats correct WOW. I would probably try to clone that onto an SSD and call it lifetime instead.
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IIRC.. that was more back in the IBM period before Hitachi bought IBMs drive business back in 2002

We had massive failures of the Deathstars and their click of death..


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