Lexus GX460 OEM KYB electronic shock exact replacement alternative
#31
Please give a before and after review of them and the various setting feelings.
If you take a short video of compressing and watching rebound of the new and the old that can be very helpful too. I have my stock rears on a shelf and am wondering how new would compare to 160k
If you take a short video of compressing and watching rebound of the new and the old that can be very helpful too. I have my stock rears on a shelf and am wondering how new would compare to 160k
The ride quality is really nice and has improved from the old (75k) shocks that were on there. I assume it is now much closer to how it rode when it was new. The old shocks were not actively leaking, but the outer metal sleeve (the part that travels up and down with the rod) was rusted through in some places so I imagine it would be a matter of time before dirt got in and broke down the seals and created a leak.
As someone noted in a post above, I also ordered the factory brackets/insulators and replaced those. One goes on each side of the body mount. My originals were actually in pretty good shape and probably would have been fine to reuse, but I wasn't sure and chose to replace them.
#32
I was able to install front and back this past weekend. I am not super great at wrenching, but had supervision and some help from my mechanic dad. Everything you need to know is in the first post. I did take off a couple abs line brackets on the front just to be safe when removing the strut. I ordered a full set of stubby Allen wrenches, bondhus, same as the single in Acrad's post. Found on Amazon, but price has gone up. Anyhow, thanks to all who helped gather info. Just wanted to confirm its very doable over a weekend with minimal skills. Don't spare the penetrating oil, and take time with the Allen screws. Did not take pics, we were racing against the rain.
#33
I was able to install front and back this past weekend. I am not super great at wrenching, but had supervision and some help from my mechanic dad. Everything you need to know is in the first post. I did take off a couple abs line brackets on the front just to be safe when removing the strut. I ordered a full set of stubby Allen wrenches, bondhus, same as the single in Acrad's post. Found on Amazon, but price has gone up. Anyhow, thanks to all who helped gather info. Just wanted to confirm its very doable over a weekend with minimal skills. Don't spare the penetrating oil, and take time with the Allen screws. Did not take pics, we were racing against the rain.
I ordered the rear shocks and am comfortable doing those and I have a spring compressor so doing the fronts should be no problem, I'm just a bit nervous about the sway bar and removing the shock assembly from the vehicle...
#34
For the fronts where the special tool is referenced in the manual for removing the bracket, did you find this necessary or where you able to use an appropriately sized wrench to remove it?
I ordered the rear shocks and am comfortable doing those and I have a spring compressor so doing the fronts should be no problem, I'm just a bit nervous about the sway bar and removing the shock assembly from the vehicle...
I ordered the rear shocks and am comfortable doing those and I have a spring compressor so doing the fronts should be no problem, I'm just a bit nervous about the sway bar and removing the shock assembly from the vehicle...
the sway bar, mine had some hydraulic pressure on it, so took a little help to get back in place. Would definitely have help, jack, or lift and something sturdy to press it back into position.
we used a 4x4 post cut to size to keep each corner from dropping uncontrollably. Then use the same post under the sway bar, and just dropped the lift a little bit at a time and guided back into place.
perhaps I should not understate the additional comfort I had because I had a retired mechanic there to make sure I didn't mess up, and that I did things the easy, but correct way.
#35
Rears are easy to install. I'd suggest a ratcheting 17mm wrench to speed things up. I didn't even need to hold the body of the shock while removing the top bolt. Just know that you'll have to jack up each side a bit to compress the shock enough where you can start the threads on the top bolt. Honestly, took about 15 minutes per side.
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#36
A different approach to the fronts:
Seems pretty doable without having to drop the sway bar.
Seems pretty doable without having to drop the sway bar.
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#37
For those who have third party electronic shocks.
Have you scanned your ecu to see if there were any trouble codes after you completed the install?
I installed the AIRSUSFAT brand ones from Amazon about 2 years ago. I knew I was getting into some shady stuff because they were super cheap at the time and shipped from Hong Kong. I was swapping my wheels the other day and decided to scan my ECU to see if there were any trouble codes, and I noticed that I got an error coming from my rear struts saying that it couldn't see my rear shocks. I didn't get a check engine light because it wasn't emissions related. It would explain why the I didn't notice a difference at the different suspension settings but overall still better than riding on blown shocks.
Have you scanned your ecu to see if there were any trouble codes after you completed the install?
I installed the AIRSUSFAT brand ones from Amazon about 2 years ago. I knew I was getting into some shady stuff because they were super cheap at the time and shipped from Hong Kong. I was swapping my wheels the other day and decided to scan my ECU to see if there were any trouble codes, and I noticed that I got an error coming from my rear struts saying that it couldn't see my rear shocks. I didn't get a check engine light because it wasn't emissions related. It would explain why the I didn't notice a difference at the different suspension settings but overall still better than riding on blown shocks.
#38
For those who have third party electronic shocks.
Have you scanned your ecu to see if there were any trouble codes after you completed the install?
I installed the AIRSUSFAT brand ones from Amazon about 2 years ago. I knew I was getting into some shady stuff because they were super cheap at the time and shipped from Hong Kong. I was swapping my wheels the other day and decided to scan my ECU to see if there were any trouble codes, and I noticed that I got an error coming from my rear struts saying that it couldn't see my rear shocks. I didn't get a check engine light because it wasn't emissions related. It would explain why the I didn't notice a difference at the different suspension settings but overall still better than riding on blown shocks.
Have you scanned your ecu to see if there were any trouble codes after you completed the install?
I installed the AIRSUSFAT brand ones from Amazon about 2 years ago. I knew I was getting into some shady stuff because they were super cheap at the time and shipped from Hong Kong. I was swapping my wheels the other day and decided to scan my ECU to see if there were any trouble codes, and I noticed that I got an error coming from my rear struts saying that it couldn't see my rear shocks. I didn't get a check engine light because it wasn't emissions related. It would explain why the I didn't notice a difference at the different suspension settings but overall still better than riding on blown shocks.
#39
A different approach to the fronts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIJEa9WUzqE
Seems pretty doable without having to drop the sway bar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIJEa9WUzqE
Seems pretty doable without having to drop the sway bar.
edit: i did this while the vehicle was on jack stands close to the ground. reconnecting the sway bar if the vehicle were lifted above you would be really challenging because it would be harder to get the appropriate leverage to get it back into place to line up the bolt holes on the brackets
#40
good video - thanks for sharing. the only purpose of disconnecting the sway bar is to provide enough articulation in the corner you are working on to remove the shock/coil assembly. since I was replacing the sway bar bushings (all 4) while doing the front shocks, I had to disconnect the sway bar anyways. it was challenging to get it bolted back up by myself, but I was able to do it with the help of a second jack and some wood blocks.
edit: i did this while the vehicle was on jack stands close to the ground. reconnecting the sway bar if the vehicle were lifted above you would be really challenging because it would be harder to get the appropriate leverage to get it back into place to line up the bolt holes on the brackets
edit: i did this while the vehicle was on jack stands close to the ground. reconnecting the sway bar if the vehicle were lifted above you would be really challenging because it would be harder to get the appropriate leverage to get it back into place to line up the bolt holes on the brackets
Thanks. I'm all about saving a ton of money by doing it myself but neither way (mentioned here with the service manual data or the YouTube video) really cover the process with the detail needed where I would feel comfortable doing it myself. I just don't want to get to the failure point where I can't get past a certain step.
#41
Super Moderator
I have wondered if KDSS test mode via Techstream or some of the bypass systems like Blackgatecustoms or Dr KDSS would relieve pressure in ways to not make manipulation of the sway bars difficult
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-...l#post10805135
Another potential free KDSS interrupt option I posted here
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/kds.../post-14292543
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-...l#post10805135
Another potential free KDSS interrupt option I posted here
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/kds.../post-14292543
#42
I have wondered if KDSS test mode via Techstream or some of the bypass systems like Blackgatecustoms or Dr KDSS would relieve pressure in ways to not make manipulation of the sway bars difficult
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-...l#post10805135
Another potential free KDSS interrupt option I posted here
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/kds.../post-14292543
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-...l#post10805135
Another potential free KDSS interrupt option I posted here
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/kds.../post-14292543
I'm taking my LS430 in for a few things to the local Lexus indy place and I'm going to have them quote the front struts and see what they're price is and eventually make my decision.
#43
Super Moderator
You can relieve pressure that way. Just make sure you document with marks how far you loosen to ensure not beyond what is needed.
#44
Explain the challenge please because that's the biggest hold up for me doing this job myself. Is it because the bar is heavy? It it because of the pressure associated with the KDSS system? Is it just too awkward for one person to try and do too many things at once? If I drop the two brackets that the skid plate bolts to, then undo the sway bar at each end, is it just going to fall down gracefully or forcefully? Is it reasonably easy to do one side at a time for the reattachment provided you have a second jack and some wood blocks? The wood blocks just make it where you have less to jack?
Thanks. I'm all about saving a ton of money by doing it myself but neither way (mentioned here with the service manual data or the YouTube video) really cover the process with the detail needed where I would feel comfortable doing it myself. I just don't want to get to the failure point where I can't get past a certain step.
Thanks. I'm all about saving a ton of money by doing it myself but neither way (mentioned here with the service manual data or the YouTube video) really cover the process with the detail needed where I would feel comfortable doing it myself. I just don't want to get to the failure point where I can't get past a certain step.
I would suggest replaying the 4 bushings if you’re tackling the front shocks.
#45
Hi Folks, just joined as my Dad's 2012 GX has a leaking shock in the rear, and the front's are just mild weeping. I am in Dubai, and seems that partsouq.com have a lot of stock, but we are not allowed to buy from them, as they must have an export only deal with suppliers.
Anyhow I wanted to know if i just replace with normal shocks from the likes of KYB which is easily available, the electronic ones seems to be diffcult to find at the moment, I even spoke to the whole GCC distributor of KYB, and they had no interest in serving a retail customer, and sent me on a wild goose chase with their 2 UAE distributors, 1 phone number was out of service, and the other distributor sent me on to other retailers, again 1 phone worked, and the other did not!!!!!
Anyhow maybe I just ditch the electronic shocks and put the normal shocks, do I need to replace the height adjustable bags as well then? Will the car throw CEL, or codes?
Anyhow I wanted to know if i just replace with normal shocks from the likes of KYB which is easily available, the electronic ones seems to be diffcult to find at the moment, I even spoke to the whole GCC distributor of KYB, and they had no interest in serving a retail customer, and sent me on a wild goose chase with their 2 UAE distributors, 1 phone number was out of service, and the other distributor sent me on to other retailers, again 1 phone worked, and the other did not!!!!!
Anyhow maybe I just ditch the electronic shocks and put the normal shocks, do I need to replace the height adjustable bags as well then? Will the car throw CEL, or codes?