As per consumer reports, the GX 460 is one of the most if not the most reliable vehicle on the road alongside the 4Runner.

Has the build quality dropped over the years? Has Toyota/Lexus cut any corners over the years which could affect LONG term reliability?

in other words, we hear all the time of 10-year old GXs here in the forum with several hundreds of thousands miles and still going strong. Should we expect to be as lucky with a 2023 model?

 

All the important parts of a 2023 GX are literally still the same as those "10 year old GXs" we hear about all the time.

 

Agree ... BUT understand that when a new generation is (soon to be) introduced, any car manufacturer will use up the last inventory of parts from the previous generation. Yes, Toyota has a reputation for absolute integrity ... but any marginal parts on the shelf are typically consumed to deplete inventory ... all about cost management. Yes, the GX platform has a broader number of World-Wide models that will continue ... so maybe this does not apply ... so am I in any way suggesting Toyota (Lexus) plays this game like Ford / GM / Chrysler ... absolutely not ... but ...

 

I think Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act means they have to keep parts for as long as warranties are active - so that would be at least 4 years plus 6 years for powertrain - not including the extra length to cover VSAs/CPOs - so assuming they sell these 2023's as CPO's up to 6 years from now, I would think there would be at least 10 years of parts inventory (2 years CPO plus extended CPO VSA's), so not sure why they would need/want to use up parts in inventory for 2023 builds.

 

Cutting corners is not something Toyota/Lexus would do (usually) especially within the same generation of a model/trim... and on top of that there are models that come from the Tahara plant, which the GX is one of.

 

We owned a 2011 GX, 2014 GX, 2017 GX, and now a 2023 GX. Except for the 2023, I have driven all of them more than 100,000 miles and only changed oil numerous times and tires once. Since I just got the 23, I can only say it feels and acts as solid as my previous ones. Usually, people take more risk when buying the first year of a new design. I learned my lesson on a first year car model. Auto manufactures use just in time inventory so they really don't have a stockpile of parts. This is one person's experience with the GX.

 

I’m sure minus the infotainment upgrade everything is on par with the older models. For parts availability I’m in the process of replacing all I can with factory OEM parts which should last me a decade or more. After that it’s time to salvage yard hunt which by seeing large amounts of monthly new GX sales will be less difficult. I don’t trust Chinesium (auto zone/oreilly/etc) crap parts. I’d rather use reman or original OEM parts. It’s what will keep these things on the road for 100,000’s of miles.

 

I guess OP could check the GX470 board and see if parts is an issue for them now that it has been 12 years or so since it was last sold here. That was only sold for 6 years - so only for half the time as the 460, so if they aren't having parts issues I image OP wouldn't either in a decade. Of course the converse isn't as strong - even if they are having issues, since 460 will have run for 13 years -prob more parts around (of course more GX's needing those parts )

 

I’m not concerned about parts availability. I’m concerned about trips to the dealership/mechanic past the warranty period.

In other words, I know there will be parts. I just don’t want to have to buy them as much. 😉

I wondered if the GX quality was as strong in a 2023 model when compared to a 2016 or 2019 or whatever. If Toyota/Lexus had cut corners along the way in any way.

 

No corners cut, these are made in Japan by skilled individuals. I have zero doubt a 2022 will last as long as my 2010.

 

Also, at the margin, where else you gonna go? The 4runner is going to be changed just a year after, so that is basically the same situation. Not sure what other BOF you could get that has any evidence of being more reliable that the final year of the GX/LC150. Not the LX600, or the Bronco, or QX80, Jeep Wagoneer, Tahoe, ... no of them. I guess you could see how much a 2016 CPO is if you are worried about new quality (not that there is reason to). Now is a great time to buy one of those since in 16 days they won't be able to sell it as CPO - I have gotten great deals on CPO at the end of eligibility since that gives you a lot of leverage.

 

A 2023 is the exact same vehicle as a 2014-2021GX, minus the infotainment upgrade (why I left out 2022 as it is all the same), all the base parts of the vehicle has not changed. How Lexus puts them together has not changed. The 2022-2023 is just as solid and all the same parts until the dash. Lexus has just improved on the GX model over the years but it is basically the same.

 

I’m getting a 2023 GX (deposit paid). I don’t question if they’re more reliable than a Chevy or a Jeep. I know the GX is the most reliable of them all.

This is strictly a GX vs GX question. I hear how other 10yr old GXs keep going strong. I just wanted to know if the new ones are as good as those 2012 and 2013s used to be.

This is why I asked if Toyota had somehow cut corners over the years.

based on comments, seems they haven’t. The vehicles are still the same. (With the cosmetic changes of course)

 

Ah, you already bought. Then sleep well - you did good. Very likely the best that could be done. You can check this car purchase off and let something else take its place in your before sleep/keep awake worry stack.

 

The design has not greatly changed and small improvements were put in, so I expect it as reliable if not more. There are noticeable cutting corners in Lexus and Toyota products. For an example, the GX470 floor mats feel a lot more durable than the GX460 ones. I weighed LS430 and 2022 LS500 floor mats, and the former almost weigh twice as much as the latter. My 2010 tundra and 2014 Camry floor mats have almost lost all their nibbles on the back, while 2006 LS430 floor mat is still like new.