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Old 12-14-19, 03:25 PM
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Pic of deployed airbags on a 460.

There are also pre-tensioners and force limiters on the front and outboard second row seat-belts.













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I remember this a while back. I don't have this option...

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Interesting... your '11 doesn't have the RSCA OFF button to the right of the steering wheel?

This button is present on US 10-13 models.

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focused on the left side. My bad, I do have this
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Originally Posted by tecman
focused on the left side. My bad, I do have this
What would be the purpose of disabling this feature? Something to do with off-roading to prevent unintended activation?
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In a nutshell... if you don't want possibility of side curtains firing off-road in steep terrain turn them off. IMO... '14+ detuned


https://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...mbers-use.html

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460 Member on GXOR posted this accident he and his son were in. They walked away with minor cuts and bruises.

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...rstate/2263060










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I see that this high impact only deployed the passenger curtain air bag and that is where I see the true damage. Looks like the passenger dash air bag is exposed here.



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Originally Posted by tecman
I see that this high impact only deployed the passenger curtain air bag and that is where I see the true damage. Looks like the passenger dash air bag is exposed here.


The pax airbag deployed as well, but was most likely shoved back in during extrication.

What is of more concern is how the dash intruded into the pax leg space and how the A pillar crumpled. That said, this is an example of how crash testing cannot predict all types of accidents.

If everyone in the car walked away, then they were lucky and the car did its job.
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Old articles from Australia on improvements when 150 series was released

https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...-series-17602/

"The underpinnings of the latest Prado are beefed up but they are very much an evolution of the existing structure. A body-on-frame vehicle like its LC200 big brother, Toyota's engineers claim Prado's ladder frame chassis has been substantially beefed. It is "stronger and more rigid" says program chief engineer, Arimoto-san."

"Track has been increased 30mm front and rear. Wheelbase for the five-door is unchanged at 2790mm."



https://www.goauto.com.au/new-models...1-23/5460.html

"Toyota says it paid particular attention to the body’s crashworthiness by installing features such as multi-layer front-pillar reinforcements between the roof rail reinforcement and cowl for increased buckling strength and improved energy absorption, and reduced body deformation. High-strength outer sill reinforcements and other changes have improved side-collision performance.

Front pillars and roof-rail reinforcements are high-tensile steel, while the centre pillar and sill are super-high tensile steel for better lateral strength. Cross members, including a multiple load-path central beam, are positioned to better distribute impact energy and limit cabin deformation.

Seven airbags (front, front side, side curtain and a driver’s knee airbag) are standard across the range. Active safety features on all models include VSC electronic stability control, All-terrain Traction Control (A-TRC), and an anti-lock braking system (ABS) with electronic brake-force distribution (EBD) and brake assist (BA).

Head impact-absorbing structures are used inside for the side pillars and roof trim, while the doors have foam-padded inner panels and crushable armrests to help reduce pelvic and abdominal injuries in the event of a side impact. New whiplash injury lessening active front-seat head restraints are used for the first time.

Pedestrian safety is improved by the design of the bonnet, front guards and cowl. The bonnet has an energy-absorbing structure with crush points behind the hood striker reinforcement to absorb impacts, while crush points have been added to the guard brackets and the guard protectors have been designed to slip down in the event of a head-on impact. The back of the cowl has an energy-absorbing open cross-section and a stepped cowl louvre to increase its ability to absorb impact energy."
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How safe would you consider the GX is in a crash against a F 150 or something similar ??
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Originally Posted by Luap
How safe would you consider the GX is in a crash against a F 150 or something similar ??
Research the results of crash testing. Testing is standardized for comparison. Some will argue that these tests do not represent real-world ... but how else to do direct comparisons ?

https://www.nhtsa.gov/ratings

Beyond the crash consideration, research any safety related recalls ... like Fire (Ford) ... or Steering Column Failure (Ford) ... or Brake Failure (Ford) ... the list continues. Yes, the consideration of how the vehicle will "perform" when hitting something is important ... but these are all failures that can cause a major accident . You just don't see this kind of laundry list coming from Toyota / Lexus.
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Totally agreed! Test results are very objective based on how the test is setup. Overall building quality and manufacturing process have lots to do to prevent accident at first place in real world. Not to pick on Ford, but one example to share, I recently rented a 2020 Ford Explorer Limited for business needs, It was a brand new with only 5 miles on the clock. Well, within a day, the break lights failed, which is a major safety concern. Those type of thing generally won’t happen for Toyota/Lexus, especially with the cars were built in Japan. I had previous generation GX for 12 years without any major problems other than general services and few warranty related fixes. And with current GX since early 2014, no issues whatsoever, even with all the mods had been done. They are just rock solid.
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I do remember back in 2010 when the 2nd gen GX came out, there was a stop sale campaign after results of the vehicle turning over. I believe they fixed the software or something, but we vaguely remember it. We were actually at the dealer preparing to buy a 2010 RX at the time and even the saleman mentioned they weren't allowed to sell the GX and to not even look at those.

Since then, it's a rock. No worries at all.


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