Trailer hitch platform bike rack
#1
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Bike Rack + Rear Spoiler Weight Question
I'm trying to install the trunk bike rack carrier, that I usually install on my bimmer sedan, on my 2011 GX 460. I've attached the pic of the installation. It requires the upper straps to come over the rear spoiler. What bothers me is that the tension in the upper straps may harm the rear spoiler module located on top of the door. Has anybody installed such bike carrier ? If yes and is the upper installation straps come over the rear spoiler, does the weight of the bikes cause any harm to the rear spoiler ?
I'm planning to get a hitch installed from the dealership and also purchasing the hitch bike carrier but was wondering if anybody has tried the trunk rack carrier.
I'm planning to get a hitch installed from the dealership and also purchasing the hitch bike carrier but was wondering if anybody has tried the trunk rack carrier.
#2
I'll express an opinion ... it is advice only if you take it. Don't do this!
Consider how the spoiler, the rear window wiper and the pop-up window are designed. They are all one assembly. Pop open the window first, then open the side-swing door and it is obvious. The spoiler/wiper/window assembly is hinged to the top of the rear door.
By putting straps over the top of that assembly, you are leveraging the assembly by the weight of the rack and bikes, plus the tension in the straps. How much is too much? I don't know, but are you willing to find out ... the hard way?
In addition to the forces on the spoiler/wiper/window assembly, what will all the extra weight of rack and bikes do to the side-swing door? In particular, how will the side hinges handle all the extra weight and forces for which they were not designed? No, I don't know that either, but are you willing to risk that as well?
I won't mention that your pop-up window won't pop up, that your rear wiper may not wipe and that your side-swing rear door may not swing open once bicycles are loaded on the rack, but I am glad to hear that you are planning to install a hitch and to buy a hitch bike carrier!
Regards,
SaniDel
P.S. You have discovered yet one more reason why a side-swing rear door is not as good a design as a top-hinged lift gate and especially a split lift and drop gate as in the LX. I transported a tandem bicycle from Arizona to Delaware to Florida on the back of our LX without any concern, much less any problem.
Consider how the spoiler, the rear window wiper and the pop-up window are designed. They are all one assembly. Pop open the window first, then open the side-swing door and it is obvious. The spoiler/wiper/window assembly is hinged to the top of the rear door.
By putting straps over the top of that assembly, you are leveraging the assembly by the weight of the rack and bikes, plus the tension in the straps. How much is too much? I don't know, but are you willing to find out ... the hard way?
In addition to the forces on the spoiler/wiper/window assembly, what will all the extra weight of rack and bikes do to the side-swing door? In particular, how will the side hinges handle all the extra weight and forces for which they were not designed? No, I don't know that either, but are you willing to risk that as well?
I won't mention that your pop-up window won't pop up, that your rear wiper may not wipe and that your side-swing rear door may not swing open once bicycles are loaded on the rack, but I am glad to hear that you are planning to install a hitch and to buy a hitch bike carrier!
Regards,
SaniDel
P.S. You have discovered yet one more reason why a side-swing rear door is not as good a design as a top-hinged lift gate and especially a split lift and drop gate as in the LX. I transported a tandem bicycle from Arizona to Delaware to Florida on the back of our LX without any concern, much less any problem.
Last edited by SaniDel; 11-15-10 at 07:59 AM.
#3
I'll express an opinion ... it is advice only if you take it. Don't do this!
Consider how the spoiler, the rear window wiper and the pop-up window are designed. They are all one assembly. Pop open the window first, then open the side-swing door and it is obvious. The spoiler/wiper/window assembly is hinged to the top of the rear door.
By putting straps over the top of that assembly, you are leveraging the assembly by the wait of the rack and bikes, plus the tension in the straps. How much is too much? I don't know, but are you willing to find out ... the hard way?
In addition to the forces on the spoiler/wiper/window assembly, what will all the extra weight of rack and bikes do to the side-swing door? In particular, how will the side hinges handle all the extra weight and forces for which they were not designed. No, I don't know that either, but are you willing to risk that as well?
I won't mention that your pop-up window won't pop up, that your rear wiper may not wipe and that your side-swing rear door may not swing open once bicycles are loaded on the rack, but I am glad to hear that you are planning to install a hitch and to buy a hitch bike carrier!
Regards,
SaniDel
P.S. You have discovered yet one more reason why a side-swing rear door is not as good a design as a top-hinged lift gate and especially a split lift and drop gate as in the LX. I transported a tandem bicycle from Arizona to Delaware to Florida on the back of our LX without any concern, much less any problem.
Consider how the spoiler, the rear window wiper and the pop-up window are designed. They are all one assembly. Pop open the window first, then open the side-swing door and it is obvious. The spoiler/wiper/window assembly is hinged to the top of the rear door.
By putting straps over the top of that assembly, you are leveraging the assembly by the wait of the rack and bikes, plus the tension in the straps. How much is too much? I don't know, but are you willing to find out ... the hard way?
In addition to the forces on the spoiler/wiper/window assembly, what will all the extra weight of rack and bikes do to the side-swing door? In particular, how will the side hinges handle all the extra weight and forces for which they were not designed. No, I don't know that either, but are you willing to risk that as well?
I won't mention that your pop-up window won't pop up, that your rear wiper may not wipe and that your side-swing rear door may not swing open once bicycles are loaded on the rack, but I am glad to hear that you are planning to install a hitch and to buy a hitch bike carrier!
Regards,
SaniDel
P.S. You have discovered yet one more reason why a side-swing rear door is not as good a design as a top-hinged lift gate and especially a split lift and drop gate as in the LX. I transported a tandem bicycle from Arizona to Delaware to Florida on the back of our LX without any concern, much less any problem.
You may have already damaged the paint with those straps/clips.
Koz
#4
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Thanks guys.. this was just a test.. Never put any bikes on it... merely installed it and noticed that the straps above the spoiler being tight were kinda pressurizing it and hence the question. Will get a hitch and the bike rack mount or even better would be to get the roof top carrier for the bikes. That way the bikes won't interfere with the door. Wouldn't the hitch type carrier be an interference while opening the door. What say ?
#5
You may be able to open the rear window with bikes mounted on a hitch type carrier, which would allow you to reach inside for smaller items. That is how we unload cargo with our GX backed into our garage. We bring home lots of stuff, but they are usually small enough to fit through the window opening. I can pull a case of wine through the opening, but not if it slides forward against the back of the second row seats ... my arms are neither long enough nor strong enough for that! ;-)
It has been a long time since I hauled bicycles, but what I recall is that the hitch carrier had a hinge that pivoted the brackets and the bicycles down and away from the vehicle. That allowed the rear hatch on the LX to open and may have cleared the drop gate as well. I doubt that any hitch carrier will clear the side swing door on the GX, but the rear window may provide the access you need.
Regards,
SaniDel
#6
I would go with this for two bikes;
http://www.yakima.com/shop/factorycr...ts/frontloader
For four bikes I would go with this;
http://www.amazon.com/Yakima-SwingDa.../dp/B0012SABAI
Koz
http://www.yakima.com/shop/factorycr...ts/frontloader
For four bikes I would go with this;
http://www.amazon.com/Yakima-SwingDa.../dp/B0012SABAI
Koz
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Here it is one Sewell sells.
http://lexus.sewellparts.com/accesso...2010/2445.html
Personally I like hitch mounted better as you can easily remove them when not in use and easier to put bike on. Also if you mountain bike, you don't have to worry about all the dirt on the roof and scratching car if you are not tall enough to get it to the top.
http://lexus.sewellparts.com/accesso...2010/2445.html
Personally I like hitch mounted better as you can easily remove them when not in use and easier to put bike on. Also if you mountain bike, you don't have to worry about all the dirt on the roof and scratching car if you are not tall enough to get it to the top.
#9
Hitch Bike Carriers
I plan to get a hitch bike carrier (4 bikes), and want to avoid the swing-away models. While looking at other models on the Thule and Yakima sites, I cannot tell if the "barn" door can fully open when the carrier is folded down. Looks like they are primarily designed for the lift-up tailgates. Any suggestions? What do you have?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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I plan to get a hitch bike carrier (4 bikes), and want to avoid the swing-away models. While looking at other models on the Thule and Yakima sites, I cannot tell if the "barn" door can fully open when the carrier is folded down. Looks like they are primarily designed for the lift-up tailgates. Any suggestions? What do you have?
Thanks.
Thanks.
We had (past tense) a hitch bike carrier that worked great with an LX, but the LX had a split lift/drop gate. The bike carrier pivoted down, which 'landed' the bikes on their wheels and still allowed room to open either gate. We transported a tandem across the country on the back of an LX with no problems.
The GX "barn door" is an entirely different proposition since it is one piece and swings horizontally. Frankly, I would be surprised if any hitch bike carrier would clear that! If you find one that works please let us know the make and model. Even better if you can post pictures showing how it does that.
Fortunately, the pop-up rear window allows access for smaller items.
Regards,
SaniDel
#12
Thanks both for your suggestions -
The Hollywood Sport Rider 4 looks great, with a 5-star rating on Amazon. It is a strong candidate.
The guy at REI told me that Yakima used to have a Flipside model that flips completely to one side, but it had been recalled for safety reasons. I will look into other models.
The Hollywood Sport Rider 4 looks great, with a 5-star rating on Amazon. It is a strong candidate.
The guy at REI told me that Yakima used to have a Flipside model that flips completely to one side, but it had been recalled for safety reasons. I will look into other models.
#13