Pricing and markup discussion
11-20-23, 11:41 AM
#16
I have a difficult time with the heads up display. It's $900 which isn't the end of the world, but I find it irritating. I also don't think the digital key is really an add on option I would have paid for given a choice, again not the end of the world.
On the luxury+ edition, I am disappointed with the captain's chairs. I would rather have a bench, but I want the ML and cool box. I have 3 kids and the captain's chairs are great for trips around town, but not on road trips where you need to pack stuff. I know other people may want the captain's chairs and these selections will hit a broad audience, but again, the larger point I was making in my original comment was the base prices that were leaked comport with the prices on these builds and that I wish the option menu was a little more A la carte.
On the luxury+ edition, I am disappointed with the captain's chairs. I would rather have a bench, but I want the ML and cool box. I have 3 kids and the captain's chairs are great for trips around town, but not on road trips where you need to pack stuff. I know other people may want the captain's chairs and these selections will hit a broad audience, but again, the larger point I was making in my original comment was the base prices that were leaked comport with the prices on these builds and that I wish the option menu was a little more A la carte.
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jphcbpa (11-21-23)
11-21-23, 03:53 AM
#21
Definitely noticed the lack of memory seats on the overtrail. My wife's driving position (if not noticed on entry) kills my knees hitting the steering wheel. I always use the memory seat function and have our keys configured to autoset on the vehicles now. But.. I just don't want to swing for the + trim level to get that feature. That was disappointing to see that.
11-21-23, 08:06 AM
#22
Based on those prices it looks like the 2024 Prem and Lux trims will be around $10k more than the equivalent 2023 model. I am pretty sure some of that is for them to account for a bit of the global inflation over the past 2 years, but I wonder what the actually spread will be for folks making a decision between getting a 2023 and the 2024 in the next 2/3 months. My hunch is the actual delta will be closer to $15k, maybe even $20k after EOY promos on the last of the '23s and any dealer markups on the 2024.
11-21-23, 08:34 AM
#23
Based on those prices it looks like the 2024 Prem and Lux trims will be around $10k more than the equivalent 2023 model. I am pretty sure some of that is for them to account for a bit of the global inflation over the past 2 years, but I wonder what the actually spread will be for folks making a decision between getting a 2023 and the 2024 in the next 2/3 months. My hunch is the actual delta will be closer to $15k, maybe even $20k after EOY promos on the last of the '23s and any dealer markups on the 2024.
I would pay $10k more if it is what I want. I mean the tax is close 8-9k.
Assuming most may buying extended warranty or something around $5k at check out. Plus nitrogen and diamond coat on a second sticker. That total with tax can hit $100k. (Not a thing to be proud of)
What’s interest ? 5% is considered standard “low” on a new car from Lexus.
first thing they would say is let’s make your loan from 48 to 60, 60 to 72. Make sure you say no. No no. This is to make the add ons seems cheaper. They only talk in monthly price. Anyone with a high school math education ask to see the actual price of principal added. I’m sure most know this but if you have not bought a car recently you may not remember. Do not fall for it. The packages are pretty difficult to cancel.
11-21-23, 08:39 AM
#24
I believe sticker on most 2023 is around $73k. 2024 Lux + $78k (is it sticker?) so shouldn’t be $10k
I would pay $10k more if it is what I want. I mean the tax is close 8-9k.
Assuming most may buying extended warranty or something around $5k at check out. Plus nitrogen and diamond coat on a second sticker. That total with tax can hit $100k. (Not a thing to be proud of)
What’s interest ? 5% is considered standard “low” on a new car from Lexus.
first thing they would say is let’s make your loan from 48 to 60, 60 to 72. Make sure you say no. No no. This is to make the add ons seems cheaper. They only talk in monthly price. Anyone with a high school math education ask to see the actual price of principal added. I’m sure most know this but if you have not bought a car recently you may not remember. Do not fall for it. The packages are pretty difficult to cancel.
I would pay $10k more if it is what I want. I mean the tax is close 8-9k.
Assuming most may buying extended warranty or something around $5k at check out. Plus nitrogen and diamond coat on a second sticker. That total with tax can hit $100k. (Not a thing to be proud of)
What’s interest ? 5% is considered standard “low” on a new car from Lexus.
first thing they would say is let’s make your loan from 48 to 60, 60 to 72. Make sure you say no. No no. This is to make the add ons seems cheaper. They only talk in monthly price. Anyone with a high school math education ask to see the actual price of principal added. I’m sure most know this but if you have not bought a car recently you may not remember. Do not fall for it. The packages are pretty difficult to cancel.
https://www.lexus.com/build-your-lex...year/2023/trim
11-21-23, 08:54 AM
#25
Maybe you are in in Canada but in USD Prem is about $61 and Lux is about $71
https://www.lexus.com/build-your-lex...year/2023/trim
https://www.lexus.com/build-your-lex...year/2023/trim
Toyota and Lexus don't do "builds" and comparing sticker price is more meaningful. The lowest 2023 Luxury, with minimal port installed options I see in CA, is close to $73K.
2024, we can expect to add ML, coolbox , traffic jam assist in the higher trims.
I have seen a few thousand off 2023 sticker price. There should be more bargaining power when the 2024 is on the lot along side 2023. (My guess is the 2023 wouldn't be there long if the price difference is around $15k)
On a more positive note, I am excited about the traffic jam assist, it can slowly drive for you in traffic. I'm not sure this is subscription based.
Last edited by SC3coupe; 11-21-23 at 12:24 PM.
11-23-23, 08:41 AM
#26
I see many Gxs sitting on multiple dealer lots.
Salesman states right off that they can do invoice pricing on Gxs.
I am looking for a new to replace wife's 2015RX and GX is a bit large but is on my table of choices.
I didn't care for new RX, much smaller feeling inside, the Grand Highlander hybrid seems very nice but short supply.
Salesman states right off that they can do invoice pricing on Gxs.
I am looking for a new to replace wife's 2015RX and GX is a bit large but is on my table of choices.
I didn't care for new RX, much smaller feeling inside, the Grand Highlander hybrid seems very nice but short supply.
11-23-23, 08:55 AM
#27
I see many Gxs sitting on multiple dealer lots.
Salesman states right off that they can do invoice pricing on Gxs.
I am looking for a new to replace wife's 2015RX and GX is a bit large but is on my table of choices.
I didn't care for new RX, much smaller feeling inside, the Grand Highlander hybrid seems very nice but short supply.
Salesman states right off that they can do invoice pricing on Gxs.
I am looking for a new to replace wife's 2015RX and GX is a bit large but is on my table of choices.
I didn't care for new RX, much smaller feeling inside, the Grand Highlander hybrid seems very nice but short supply.
Take the 23 for a test ride. It is a bit larger than the RX but it has great visibility. And it is one smooth road vehicle.
Last edited by bowhun2r; 11-23-23 at 09:02 AM.
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GsaMke (11-23-23)
11-23-23, 06:59 PM
#28
I see many Gxs sitting on multiple dealer lots.
Salesman states right off that they can do invoice pricing on Gxs.
I am looking for a new to replace wife's 2015RX and GX is a bit large but is on my table of choices.
I didn't care for new RX, much smaller feeling inside, the Grand Highlander hybrid seems very nice but short supply.
Salesman states right off that they can do invoice pricing on Gxs.
I am looking for a new to replace wife's 2015RX and GX is a bit large but is on my table of choices.
I didn't care for new RX, much smaller feeling inside, the Grand Highlander hybrid seems very nice but short supply.
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vraa (11-25-23)
