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Another factor to consider... my state just began charging extra if you have a hybrid. Thought that was reserved for EVs only. I was leaning hybrid until this recent discovery. Guess I'll have to find a way to disable the silly and annoying start/stop protocol.
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What state are you in? I can see California doing this also because it’s always looking for taxation. That will eliminate the purpose of getting a hybrid. At 20,000 miles driven/year and 20 mpg vs 27. I’ll save about 250 gallons @ $5 =$1250. So if the tax difference is minimal I guess I’d pass on the hybrid.
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What state are you in? I can see California doing this also because it’s always looking for taxation. That will eliminate the purpose of getting a hybrid. At 20,000 miles driven/year and 20 mpg vs 27. I’ll save about 250 gallons @ $5 =$1250. So if the tax difference is minimal I guess I’d pass on the hybrid.
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Lexus GX is more luxurious in the frills. but people will probably recognize the LC more, because name recognition. Before I went Lexus I had NO idea about what the different Lexus models stood for and could not care less.
LC is also a better off roader it seems, since you'd need overtrail to get some stuff that comes standard in all LC trims. Plus approach angle is significantly higher in LC.
LC is also a better off roader it seems, since you'd need overtrail to get some stuff that comes standard in all LC trims. Plus approach angle is significantly higher in LC.
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Any word on which hybrid engine powertrain will be used on the GX 550? Last I heard was 2.4 liter turbocharged gas engine with 8 speed automatic transmission. Delivering 326hp, 465 lb-ft of torque and 27 mpg. I drive a lot, well over 20,000 miles per year. So I’m eyeing the hybrid in 2025. Or could it be a 437hp V6???
But you figure you gained like 1mpg on the tacoma, and it's 1000lbs lighter. If I was guessing, based on those details, probably best case scenario based on the Tundra and Tacoma results, you might get 2mpg overall improvement compared to the non-hybrid, but you'll mainly just have a big increase on torque.
I've been super disappointed. I love the hybrid cars, and love sitting in traffic and hearing the gas engine shut off. And pulling into my driveway in complete silence with HEV mode running is nice. And I don't need a ton of power, and even if I'm doing light off roading to go camping I'm not climbing 30-degree hills in a mad rush or anything. And I love that they made the GX more of a luxury off-road vehicle--I had heard rumors of that years ago. So I was waiting years thinking a hybrid would come out of it, but once the tundra hybrid mpg was known, I was not optimistic about mpg for the GX. But I still held out hope that the hybrid GX would have mpg somewhere midway between the previous GX(15/19) and the RX (36 combined), so my hope was to see like in the high 20s like 25-29ish. But I thought rumors said the GX would remain a body on-frame not a unibody, which means heavy, even with modern designs. I'm hoping the GX might come out with a plug-in hybrid and maybe they will surprise everyone and focus on mpg for that version rather than crazy unnecessary power. But I'm not expecting that to be the route. I imagine they are of the mind that if you're paying much attention to mpg then you should get an RX or an NX or a maybe a Toyota Rav4 or Highlander.
So oh well, guess I'll just stick with my car for now.
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The Tundra hybrid meant only a shift in mpg from 18/24 to 20/24. The hybrid system is mainly to add torque to the bottom end rather than making any large gains in the mpg. The new hybrid Tacoma--which will be the same hybrid drivetrain--going from old to new was only a shift of 20/23 to 22/24 with the new hybrid version. But, the curb weight for tacoma went from max 4550 to 4720. The GX is going from 6600lbs to 5700-ish (not sure how much heavier the hybrid one will be).
But you figure you gained like 1mpg on the tacoma, and it's 1000lbs lighter. If I was guessing, based on those details, probably best case scenario based on the Tundra and Tacoma results, you might get 2mpg overall improvement compared to the non-hybrid, but you'll mainly just have a big increase on torque.
I've been super disappointed. I love the hybrid cars, and love sitting in traffic and hearing the gas engine shut off. And pulling into my driveway in complete silence with HEV mode running is nice. And I don't need a ton of power, and even if I'm doing light off roading to go camping I'm not climbing 30-degree hills in a mad rush or anything. And I love that they made the GX more of a luxury off-road vehicle--I had heard rumors of that years ago. So I was waiting years thinking a hybrid would come out of it, but once the tundra hybrid mpg was known, I was not optimistic about mpg for the GX. But I still held out hope that the hybrid GX would have mpg somewhere midway between the previous GX(15/19) and the RX (36 combined), so my hope was to see like in the high 20s like 25-29ish. But I thought rumors said the GX would remain a body on-frame not a unibody, which means heavy, even with modern designs. I'm hoping the GX might come out with a plug-in hybrid and maybe they will surprise everyone and focus on mpg for that version rather than crazy unnecessary power. But I'm not expecting that to be the route. I imagine they are of the mind that if you're paying much attention to mpg then you should get an RX or an NX or a maybe a Toyota Rav4 or Highlander.
So oh well, guess I'll just stick with my car for now.
But you figure you gained like 1mpg on the tacoma, and it's 1000lbs lighter. If I was guessing, based on those details, probably best case scenario based on the Tundra and Tacoma results, you might get 2mpg overall improvement compared to the non-hybrid, but you'll mainly just have a big increase on torque.
I've been super disappointed. I love the hybrid cars, and love sitting in traffic and hearing the gas engine shut off. And pulling into my driveway in complete silence with HEV mode running is nice. And I don't need a ton of power, and even if I'm doing light off roading to go camping I'm not climbing 30-degree hills in a mad rush or anything. And I love that they made the GX more of a luxury off-road vehicle--I had heard rumors of that years ago. So I was waiting years thinking a hybrid would come out of it, but once the tundra hybrid mpg was known, I was not optimistic about mpg for the GX. But I still held out hope that the hybrid GX would have mpg somewhere midway between the previous GX(15/19) and the RX (36 combined), so my hope was to see like in the high 20s like 25-29ish. But I thought rumors said the GX would remain a body on-frame not a unibody, which means heavy, even with modern designs. I'm hoping the GX might come out with a plug-in hybrid and maybe they will surprise everyone and focus on mpg for that version rather than crazy unnecessary power. But I'm not expecting that to be the route. I imagine they are of the mind that if you're paying much attention to mpg then you should get an RX or an NX or a maybe a Toyota Rav4 or Highlander.
So oh well, guess I'll just stick with my car for now.
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No info on the hybrid but MPG is a major shortfall on the GX. Currently getting about 13-14 in city driving and under 300 miles of range. Would have expected the turbo 6 engine + 10 speed transmission to have delivered better than that. Hybrid option could be very compelling depending on power level, MPG, and cost.
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No info on the hybrid but MPG is a major shortfall on the GX. Currently getting about 13-14 in city driving and under 300 miles of range. Would have expected the turbo 6 engine + 10 speed transmission to have delivered better than that. Hybrid option could be very compelling depending on power level, MPG, and cost.
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[QUOTE=dbluchtefe;11716947] But, the curb weight for tacoma went from max 4550 to 4720. "The GX is going from 6600lbs to 5700-ish"
The curb weight for most base model 2nd gen GX 460s is right around 5,125 lbs, and the GVW is 6600 lbs. GX550 weighs in around 5600-5700 lbs depending on model, GVW 6900--7165 lbs., model dependent.
The curb weight for most base model 2nd gen GX 460s is right around 5,125 lbs, and the GVW is 6600 lbs. GX550 weighs in around 5600-5700 lbs depending on model, GVW 6900--7165 lbs., model dependent.
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