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I think they want their LS and LX clients to feel unique.
Yeah, totally agree with you on that; but with the Tundra very likely to get the 3.5TT as well, I don't know that they will have a great of distinction moving forward. Another part of the same video was talking about how they're moving from many platforms to few with more common parts. I guess it's just a matter of how aggressive they get at that, what marketing can differentiate. At the extreme, it could just become scaling the platform, boosting the engine, and different sheet metal.
saw the same...I'd bet against the GX having a detuned egine from the LS and LX. Those are flagship vehicles and it makes sense for the cream to stand out with "Top" engines. In the US, Lexus has had separate engine tracks for the LX (570) and GX (460) since 2010 and it worked. Why would they change the formula now? I get that a detuned 3.5T is technically a different engine but i'm still not convinced. I think they want their LS and LX clients to feel unique.
If they do bring a detuned engine to the GX then they it would change the naming structure
Maybe, but they don't currently have a problem putting the same V8 engine, even if not one built in Tahara, in the more pedestrian Tundra. Maybe the LX only gets the hybrid power train, and the GX gets the V6?
Maybe, but they don't currently have a problem putting the same V8 engine, even if not one built in Tahara, in the more pedestrian Tundra. Maybe the LX only gets the hybrid power train, and the GX gets the V6?
the Tundra is not a competitor to either and the typical Lexus shopper could care less what the tundra has. If I’m an LX customer, I don’t want the GX to have a similar engine, I want the pinnacle of excellence, I want the best in the lineup.
but I get where you were going with this.
This may work for Fords line up (but even Ford is not offering the 3.5 in the lower trims in the explorer anymore) but The Lexus motto is different of course.
For fuel efficiency's sake I think turbocharged smaller displacement motors are the future, but it comes at a cost to the vehicle owners. Turbos and everything they entail will definitely increase the long term ownership costs of these vehicles. More oil lines, more moving parts, higher pressures, etc. The laws of physics dictate that these motors will not have the longevity of naturally aspirated V8s.
The old V8 may be going the way of all flesh, with small displacement turbos serving as a stop gap until everything goes electric.
I'd grab a nice 200 series as soon as possible, because they are going to skyrocket in value over the years. The 5.7 will be worshipped by the enthusiast crowd 20 years down the road.
I don't really care about the powerplant so long as it makes decent power. And maybe takes regular gas? V6, turbo 4, doesn't matter. Hell I'd take a plug in hybrid. Don't think I could go full GX EV though, not yet.
Don't get me wrong, I like the V8 in my GX. But it wasn't really a selling point for me. If there was a more efficient V6, I would have taken that, especially if it was less money.
Regardless of the powertrain, I expect a Toyota to last the length of my ownership, which will probably be more than 100k miles, but less than 200k. Replacing a turbo, etc, at 300k miles is not really going to be a concern for me. I like the idea that these things can run for half a million miles, but ultimately I don't gain any utility out of that, so it's way down my list of things to worry about.
I’m a V8 lover and can’t stand the high revving nature of the turbo motors. Take a look around and see how many of the high revving turbo motor vehicles are still kicking. The Supra Turbos and so forth are long gone while the LS2 and LS3 Vettes are still around. Sure, the turbos get better MPG but who bought their GX for the gas savings? Mine gets 5 mpg better than the 150 Platinum with the 6.2 motor that it replaced so I do feel pretty Prius-like driving it actually.
The only thing I wish that Lexus did was put a more adjustable seat in them. I put the front seat spacers on my 2013 to raise the thigh height and that made a HUGE difference in comfort. Drove my wife’s 2017 yesterday for 4 hours and was really missing my 2013. Will have to get them for hers too.
I’m a V8 lover and can’t stand the high revving nature of the turbo motors. Take a look around and see how many of the high revving turbo motor vehicles are still kicking. The Supra Turbos and so forth are long gone while the LS2 and LS3 Vettes are still around. Sure, the turbos get better MPG but who bought their GX for the gas savings? Mine gets 5 mpg better than the 150 Platinum with the 6.2 motor that it replaced so I do feel pretty Prius-like driving it actually.
The only thing I wish that Lexus did was put a more adjustable seat in them. I put the front seat spacers on my 2013 to raise the thigh height and that made a HUGE difference in comfort. Drove my wife’s 2017 yesterday for 4 hours and was really missing my 2013. Will have to get them for hers too.
theres also a false sense of savings in turbo cars because under regular driving conditions, people don’t see the advertised MPG. Why? Because we love smashing the throttle when there’s more zip under the hood.
Does this filing even matter for the USA car market?
I'm not up on trademark laws and regulations at all.... it was filed in Costa Rica and says nothing about being applicable to the USA or is this inferred by some other international treaty or law of reciprocity?
I'm not aware of a single 5.5L displacement engine Toyota or Lexus currently has on the market in any locale....
06-15-21, 12:24 PM
GX 550 Trademark
