2024 GX 550 Discussion
#961
Intermediate
TFL released a video comparing the GX460 and the GX550. What I found most notable is their claim that just recently, an even higher towing figure was announced; that being 9,063 pounds.
I was already impressed by the 8,000 pound towing capacity, but 9,000 pounds is even more enticing. Has anyone else seen this increase anywhere?
Here's the link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgVOqhxnbB0
18:40 is the time stamp.
I was already impressed by the 8,000 pound towing capacity, but 9,000 pounds is even more enticing. Has anyone else seen this increase anywhere?
Here's the link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgVOqhxnbB0
18:40 is the time stamp.
https://pressroom.lexus.com/a-new-le...2024-lexus-gx/
It isnt updated on the specifications sheet or Lexus Canada yet. At least its official!
Id be interested to know what the tow rating for the Luxury+ / Executive trims are.
the video also says they they are expected at the start of Q2 in California dealerships, and are currently on a boat from Japan.
if thats the case, I'm wagering they will hit Canadian soil in April or May at the earliest.
edit: the claims by the YouTuber arent in line with what others in the Reddit community claim.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LexusGX/s/bIGBrpDRnl
there are rumbles of delays due to QC, and someone claimed that its due to engines not being cleaned after machining. Nothing concrete, no sources, all hearsay until facts are presented.
Lexus is steadfast in their claims of early 2024, but who knows. They are all over the place. Towing rating changed, MPG is subject to change, certain things have yet to be finalized and many people call the GX Sightings - prototypes.
Id rather wait for a finished product and get one with the Tahara-plant full stamp of approval.
from some other YouTubers, Tahara cranks out 7-800 vehicles daily, so if they are focused on an initial batch of GXs, they may be building 2-3 dealership worth of requests daily. Obviously its not how that works, but Im hoping they plant ensure that they focus on quality over quantity.
Last edited by Ihave1cat; 01-24-24 at 06:06 PM.
#962
Gas cap shows premium fuel required:
This was on YouTuber video: Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk
This was on YouTuber video: Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk
#963
Driver
TFL released a video comparing the GX460 and the GX550. What I found most notable is their claim that just recently, an even higher towing figure was announced; that being 9,063 pounds.
I was already impressed by the 8,000 pound towing capacity, but 9,000 pounds is even more enticing. Has anyone else seen this increase anywhere?
Here's the link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgVOqhxnbB0
18:40 is the time stamp.
I was already impressed by the 8,000 pound towing capacity, but 9,000 pounds is even more enticing. Has anyone else seen this increase anywhere?
Here's the link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgVOqhxnbB0
18:40 is the time stamp.
#964
The 9K tow rating is more evidence the Toyota put its engineering resources into towing improvements while the marketing budget is for promoting it as being more dedicated/capable for off road.
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CFAI (01-26-24)
#966
Intermediate
I actually doubt that now. I currently drive a RX 350h and took it into service today. They gave me an RX350 non-h. It has a 4-cyl, 275hp single turbo engine. The fuel ratings are 11.2L/100KM city. I was getting close to 12L/100 today. Thats 19.6MPG, from a laboured 4-cylinder.
The GX550 weighs nearly 600kg more, has a twin-turbo v6, and a larger displacement. Plus, with the direct and port injection, you sacrifice efficiency for reliability (lack of carbon buildup when the engine operates in port injection mode)
Then theres the towing capacity
Looking at the LX fuel economy, Id say that if we see another MPG gain, wed be lucky. Maybe a fraction of an MPG on the base or luxury trim.
I am also dreaming of getting the same fuel economy to that of my RX350h, but its just that - a dream.
The GX550 weighs nearly 600kg more, has a twin-turbo v6, and a larger displacement. Plus, with the direct and port injection, you sacrifice efficiency for reliability (lack of carbon buildup when the engine operates in port injection mode)
Then theres the towing capacity
Looking at the LX fuel economy, Id say that if we see another MPG gain, wed be lucky. Maybe a fraction of an MPG on the base or luxury trim.
I am also dreaming of getting the same fuel economy to that of my RX350h, but its just that - a dream.
#967
Super Moderator
Anyone with a TIS subscription to confirm or deny whether an external AT air cooler is now standard or not on the 550?
#968
#970
Super Moderator
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Last edited by Acrad; 01-27-24 at 06:47 AM.
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Slprciv (01-27-24)
#971
Intermediate
looks like one point that was said by the lead engineer is that the engine is fundamentally the same as the LX600, but with smaller turbos.
this may be indicative of why we have worse fuel economy and lower horsepower output. A few people were wondering if you could tune the engine to output the same power figures, I doubt that you would get an apples-to-apples if you applied the same LX600 tune here.
at least its good to know that they didnt artificially detune the engine (much) to ensure that its not competing with the LX, but rather put smaller turbos in as a hardware limiter.
this is both good and bad for me. Same engine as the LX600? Great! The reliability should be there! Different turbos? Not so great, that really changes things dramatically Im hoping that the turbos used are something that they have tested and ensured to be reliable.
#972
thanks for the video!
looks like one point that was said by the lead engineer is that the engine is fundamentally the same as the LX600, but with smaller turbos.
this may be indicative of why we have worse fuel economy and lower horsepower output. A few people were wondering if you could tune the engine to output the same power figures, I doubt that you would get an apples-to-apples if you applied the same LX600 tune here.
at least its good to know that they didnt artificially detune the engine (much) to ensure that its not competing with the LX, but rather put smaller turbos in as a hardware limiter.
this is both good and bad for me. Same engine as the LX600? Great! The reliability should be there! Different turbos? Not so great, that really changes things dramatically Im hoping that the turbos used are something that they have tested and ensured to be reliable.
looks like one point that was said by the lead engineer is that the engine is fundamentally the same as the LX600, but with smaller turbos.
this may be indicative of why we have worse fuel economy and lower horsepower output. A few people were wondering if you could tune the engine to output the same power figures, I doubt that you would get an apples-to-apples if you applied the same LX600 tune here.
at least its good to know that they didnt artificially detune the engine (much) to ensure that its not competing with the LX, but rather put smaller turbos in as a hardware limiter.
this is both good and bad for me. Same engine as the LX600? Great! The reliability should be there! Different turbos? Not so great, that really changes things dramatically Im hoping that the turbos used are something that they have tested and ensured to be reliable.
All silly speculations of course, but Im looking forward to seeing the drive reviews soon!
#973
Super Moderator
#974
Had a chance to watch a bunch of reviews. Obviously the reviewers arent going to trash the car, but they did provide some honest feedback. Some things I picked up (especially re the OT+ as thats what Im interested in):
-OT is actually pretty quiet on the road. Apparently the Toyo tires were designed specifically for the GX to address this.
-While not as refined as Mercedes and BMW on road, this is to be expected since they cant compete off road
-Visibility is excellent.
-Some wind noise at high speeds, due to boxy design.
-Interior actually coming across as more refined than I think people expected.
-Lexus still needs to work on infotainment system a bit as some things are buried in the menus.
-All of them seem to agree this a step change above the GX460, including drive comfort and engine.
-True off-roaders may actually not like this as much, because it makes off roading almost as easy as normal driving, the system is that good.
All in all, it confirms my decision to get the OT+.
-OT is actually pretty quiet on the road. Apparently the Toyo tires were designed specifically for the GX to address this.
-While not as refined as Mercedes and BMW on road, this is to be expected since they cant compete off road
-Visibility is excellent.
-Some wind noise at high speeds, due to boxy design.
-Interior actually coming across as more refined than I think people expected.
-Lexus still needs to work on infotainment system a bit as some things are buried in the menus.
-All of them seem to agree this a step change above the GX460, including drive comfort and engine.
-True off-roaders may actually not like this as much, because it makes off roading almost as easy as normal driving, the system is that good.
All in all, it confirms my decision to get the OT+.
#975
Had a chance to watch a bunch of reviews. Obviously the reviewers aren’t going to trash the car, but they did provide some honest feedback. Some things I picked up (especially re the OT+ as that’s what I’m interested in):
-OT is actually pretty quiet on the road. Apparently the Toyo tires were designed specifically for the GX to address this.
-While not as refined as Mercedes and BMW on road, this is to be expected since they can’t compete off road
-Visibility is excellent.
-Some wind noise at high speeds, due to boxy design.
-Interior actually coming across as more refined than I think people expected.
-Lexus still needs to work on infotainment system a bit as some things are buried in the menus.
-All of them seem to agree this a step change above the GX460, including drive comfort and engine.
-True off-roaders may actually not like this as much, because it makes off roading almost as easy as normal driving, the system is that good.
All in all, it confirms my decision to get the OT+.
-OT is actually pretty quiet on the road. Apparently the Toyo tires were designed specifically for the GX to address this.
-While not as refined as Mercedes and BMW on road, this is to be expected since they can’t compete off road
-Visibility is excellent.
-Some wind noise at high speeds, due to boxy design.
-Interior actually coming across as more refined than I think people expected.
-Lexus still needs to work on infotainment system a bit as some things are buried in the menus.
-All of them seem to agree this a step change above the GX460, including drive comfort and engine.
-True off-roaders may actually not like this as much, because it makes off roading almost as easy as normal driving, the system is that good.
All in all, it confirms my decision to get the OT+.