Lexus HS 250h...revealed Jan. 11
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30% better than the most fuel efficient model currently in the Lexus lineup, so is that the current RX hybrid or the IS250? The IS250 is 21/29 and RX400h is 27/24 so for the best case scenario let's take 27/29 and worst case as 21/24. Tagging another 30% to both sets of the numbers we get: 35/37 and 27/31. Personally I think the HS will have a FE at around 35 mpg which in my opinion is NOT very impressive.
Yes, it looks like a Corolla from some angles and yes, it is not the best of the L-Finesse designs but you know what, if Lexus can price this thing reasonably (~$33k starting) they will sell every single one that they make.
I was heavily considering replace my IS350 with this in couple years but after seeing the real thing I have to say that the car is not for me. But like I said, I am sure the people who don't like to drive and want a luxury hybrid is going to be all over it.
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one thing i find unforgivable is the glued on lower trim bits at front and rear just like a corolla s.
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It probably will. After seeing it I don't mind the tails, but that grill has to go..... really has to go.
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I'll be shocked if, priced at $33 starting, these fly off the lots.
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After looking at the real life pics...
If Lexus could lose the tacky Corolla body cladding on the front bumper, swap out the grille for a normal Lexus one, and put on some half respectable wheels, this car wouldn't be that bad. I actually quite like it from the A pillar to the rear end, but the shape of the front combined with that tacky body molding screams ECONOMY CAR.
Still not too impressed with the overall package.
If Lexus could lose the tacky Corolla body cladding on the front bumper, swap out the grille for a normal Lexus one, and put on some half respectable wheels, this car wouldn't be that bad. I actually quite like it from the A pillar to the rear end, but the shape of the front combined with that tacky body molding screams ECONOMY CAR.
Still not too impressed with the overall package.
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Why are you posting picks of modded or lowered or even stock 1 series cars in this thread? Why? The HS doesn't compete with them at all.
Get out of here with that. If you want to compare the HS to something, do it right. The 4 cylinder Hatch 120 we don't get. The 116 we don't get.
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No one can bash the styling of the HS when the 1series is not much better (and I seemingly/amazinglin like both cars styling).
Hey everyone, a shame the HS doesn't look like this. (ROLLEYES)
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Some people honestly hate wood trim in their cars as well. That is cool. I am acceptable to change. For the most part I do like the interior of the current GS and ES with less wood trim. But IMO, if you are not going to use as much wood trim, dont give me flat pieces of vinyl and sheets of leather and say your a luxury car company. That crap belongs in a Toyota. Its about the little details to me when it comes to interiors. The new RX and HS have none of that.
I agree. The clears of this and the new RX look really horrible. I'm not sure why because the 2RX looks great. I hope they don't move to this on all their vehicles.
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Why are you posting picks of modded or lowered or even stock 1 series cars in this thread? Why? The HS doesn't compete with them at all.
Get out of here with that. If you want to compare the HS to something, do it right. The 4 cylinder Hatch 120 we don't get. The 116 we don't get.
![](http://cdn.motors.co.uk/d/used-photos/huge/A/G/AG08LLC.jpg)
![](https://www.nationwidevehiclecontracts.co.uk/images/models/1series_rear500.jpg)
No one can bash the styling of the HS when the 1series is not much better (and I seemingly/amazinglin like both cars styling).
Hey everyone, a shame the HS doesn't look like this. (ROLLEYES)![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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Get out of here with that. If you want to compare the HS to something, do it right. The 4 cylinder Hatch 120 we don't get. The 116 we don't get.
![](http://cdn.motors.co.uk/d/used-photos/huge/A/G/AG08LLC.jpg)
![](https://www.nationwidevehiclecontracts.co.uk/images/models/1series_rear500.jpg)
No one can bash the styling of the HS when the 1series is not much better (and I seemingly/amazinglin like both cars styling).
Hey everyone, a shame the HS doesn't look like this. (ROLLEYES)
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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Why the hell are you posting picks of modded or lowered or even stock 1 series cars in this thread? Why? The HS doesn't compete with them at all.
Get out of here with that. If you want to compare the HS to something, do it right. The 4 cylinder Hatch 120 we don't get.
![](http://cdn.motors.co.uk/d/used-photos/huge/A/G/AG08LLC.jpg)
![](https://www.nationwidevehiclecontracts.co.uk/images/models/1series_rear500.jpg)
No one can bash the styling of the HS when the 1series is not much better (and I seemingly/amazinglin like both cars styling).
Hey everyone, a shame the HS doesn't look like this. (ROLLEYES)![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
![](http://boldt.us/2252-3/rear-view)
Get out of here with that. If you want to compare the HS to something, do it right. The 4 cylinder Hatch 120 we don't get.
![](http://cdn.motors.co.uk/d/used-photos/huge/A/G/AG08LLC.jpg)
![](https://www.nationwidevehiclecontracts.co.uk/images/models/1series_rear500.jpg)
No one can bash the styling of the HS when the 1series is not much better (and I seemingly/amazinglin like both cars styling).
Hey everyone, a shame the HS doesn't look like this. (ROLLEYES)
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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All I'm going to say is that if Infiniti introduced a hybrid derived from a smaller cheaper car - say the Sentra / comparable - you guys would rip it mercilessly.
This car is terrible and it's terrible for Lexus. This is nothing that Toyota can't/shouldn't/hasn't done already with the Prius.
I'm going to call this car the Lexus Cimarron.
M.
This car is terrible and it's terrible for Lexus. This is nothing that Toyota can't/shouldn't/hasn't done already with the Prius.
I'm going to call this car the Lexus Cimarron.
M.
This still has an amazing hybrid system that BOTTOM LINE INfinit and Acura can't begin to figure out.
I do agree, the exterior design is very blah and Corolla like. Way to similar to me.
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i like the grill! the front is basically the only thing i like about this car. ES headlights, IS-F bumper, and pronounced grill. its much better than the grill found on the RX. If the RX had this grill, like the concept, it would look much better
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Look, I responded to a post that mentioned the small cars from Mercedes, BMW, Audi were ugly compared to the HS.. I stated MY OPINION with regards to that comment.. ( go back a few pages and read the posts). If you cannot handle members posting opinions contrary to yours, then perhaps you should excuse yourself from the thread. If I recall, this is an online forum... If you have a personal problem with me the pm is available.
Why don't we get it? B/C BMW is scared of hurting its image in America b/c mostowners think and ACT like they only offer M3s and M5s.
Clearly it works.
Lexus at least has the ***** to risk doing this Corolla looking/Prius vehicle here. BMW and Benz are so scared they won't send their small cars here b/c they don't want to dilute their sometimes IMAGINARY view of superiority.
Here is another beauty with 15" wheels and black door handles.
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Would I (we) like to see something way sportier. Yup. Is this what Lexus is going to sell this year? Yup.