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Lexus HS 250h...revealed Jan. 11

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Old 01-12-09, 07:50 AM
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The live stock tracker might cause more accidents than holding a phone or texting ;p
Old 01-12-09, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by I8ABMR
I dont see why they would try to produce something even smaller than the IS. Its just stupid and will reduce the brand image. I cant believe they are doing this ****
Sigh..............
1. The car is positioned between the IS and ES
2. The car is longer than the IS
3. The car is taller than the IS
4. The width is on par with the IS
5. Interior volume will be larger than the IS

As for reducing brand image, we cannot forget;
Audi has A2 and A3
BMW has 1 series and hatches
Benz has A class and B class
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Default 2010 Lexus HS 250h Press Conference Speech by Mark Templin

Thank you, Irv, and thank you all for coming this morning. As Irv mentioned we weren’t going to miss this show for anything.

Not only do we want to support the industry, but we weren’t going to miss our anniversary. Twenty years ago we chose the North American International Auto Show to debut our very first Lexus cars, the LS 400 and ES 250. I’m truly honored to be able to stand on this stage today, on our 20th anniversary, and introduce the latest all-new vehicle from Lexus.

From the beginning, Lexus has found alternative ways of looking at vehicles. We’ve worked hard to give new perspective to luxury, value, quality and innovation.

In 20 years, Lexus has gone from question mark, to benchmark, leading to a landmark series of hybrid vehicles, including the vehicle we’re debuting here today, the first ever dedicated luxury hybrid.

Ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to introduce to you, the all-new 2010 Lexus HS 250h….

(REVEAL)

We’re so excited about this car. Did you know that more than 60 percent of entry-luxury car buyers would have considered buying a hybrid if one had been available?

They also want a car that is kinder to the environment with outstanding gas mileage and low emissions, as well as one that offers advanced features, the latest electronics and one that delivers exceptional comfort.

So, we have created the hybrid powered HS sedan.

As I mentioned the HS is a dedicated hybrid, it’s not sold with any other powertrain.

The HS will be the most fuel efficient Lexus. While EPA numbers have not been finalized, we expect it will offer the best combined mpg of any luxury vehicle in the U.S. In fact, its city mpg should be higher than the two-passenger Smart micro car.

The HS is the first Lexus equipped with a four-cylinder 2.4-liter Atkinson-cycle engine that produces 187 horsepower.

As many of you know, Atkinson-cycle refers to sophisticated valve-timing made possible through the use of our VVT-i system that significantly increases an engine’s efficiency.

But that’s not all this engine has going for it.

Just like our next-generation RX hybrid, the HS features an exhaust-heat recovery system to aid in engine warm-up and help enhance fuel economy.

And here is an added plus, it can run on regular-grade, 87-octane gasoline, which last time I checked costs a lot less than diesel fuel.

Now, the HS is a little longer in overall length than the IS, and about the same width. The HS slots nicely between the IS and ES and really complements our near luxury line-up.

Utilizing a front-wheel drive platform, the HS has unexpected roominess thanks in part to the slim, advanced design of the front seats.

Like all Lexus models, the HS body is designed for excellent NVH performance. We’ve designed special engine mounts and applied special coatings to dampen road and engine noise.

We’ve reduced vibration thanks to careful work on the shape and thickness of the suspension mounting points, and we’ve engineered other measures, some very subtle but collectively, very effective. As a result of our attention to detail, the HS offers a very quiet cabin.

At 0.27 it offers an excellent coefficient of drag thanks to a standard front spoiler, a rear under-spoiler, under-trays and diffuser fins. It also has a unique gull-wing shaped roof that allows air to easily slide over the top.

The HS is equipped with MacPherson struts up front, a double wishbone independent rear suspension, with coil springs all around and antiroll bars front and back.

The steering is rack-and-pinion, but with a few clever twists. The HS steering system utilizes a brushless electric motor built on the steering column. This not only improves the steering feel, but helps emissions by not draining engine power like conventional hydraulic systems do.

There’s a lot more here than meets the eye because this electric motor is also part of our new optional Lane-keep Assist feature.

This new technology is designed to alert the driver of an unintentional lane departure and adds steering torque to help the vehicle stay in center of its lane. The feature can also be turned on and off at the driver’s discretion.

We’ve designed a very futuristic and advanced, yet comfortable, cabin that offers standard 10-way power leather seats, a moonroof, and premium audio systems.

The driver can receive information not only through the instrument panel, but in three other ways….through the multi-information display, the available navigation screen, which is positioned back at the top of the dash to improve the driver’s sight lines, or through an optional heads-up display.

The heads-up display helps reduce the need for excessive eye movement. It shows so bright you can even read it in direct sunlight.

The HS also allows access to and control of information through the steering-wheel-mounted multi-information switch, and through our all-new remote navigation device first introduced on the all-new RX, which people are discovering is both intuitive and fun to use.

A good deal of thought went into the controller’s positioning. Sitting in the front seat and lowering your hand to the controller is as natural as sitting at your computer reaching for your mouse. You can even control the tension on the cursor by adjusting the amount of feedback you prefer.

We have a couple of demonstration kiosks in our display so you can experience for yourself just how easy the controller is to operate.

Now, the HS features our new multimedia package as standard. It includes our improved Bluetooth, integrated satellite radio, voice recognition, and a USB iPod connector that is easily controlled by steering wheel buttons or the display screen via the controller.

The navigation system includes a new, upgraded casual speech voice recognition program, XM NavTraffic featuring real-time traffic updates with rerouting, and up to the minute on-screen weather, stock and sports information. The XM NavWeather feature allows customers to get live weather updates while driving in more than 150 cities.

The HS will also feature our next generation telematics which includes the all-new Lexus Enform and Safety Connect systems. While Safety Connect provides automatic collision notification, a stolen vehicle locator and 24/7 emergency and roadside assistance, Lexus Enform includes much more. Such as access to operators who are able to send destinations directly to the car’s navigation system.

Lexus Enform also allows customers to pull up multiple points of interest from their home or office computer, or any web-enabled device, and send them via the internet directly to the car’s navigation system. Let’s say you are planning a road trip and have several points of interest you want to make sure and hit, you can select and send up to 200 destinations directly to the car.

Now this is all usable technology that gives HS drivers choices to accomplish different tasks using their favorite means.

Similar to the system on our topline LX 570, the HS also offers a wide, 190-degree front view monitor. The monitor utilizes a camera located in the grille so the driver can easily check hard-to-see blind spots. Like those you’d find exiting a parking garage in a busy urban area.

The new HS offers an optional Pre-collision System which can alert the driver to potential emergency situations.

But unfortunately collisions can’t always be avoided, so just in case, we’ve included a class-leading 10 airbags.

We’ve also included active front seat head restraints to help reduce whiplash injuries, standard LED tail lights and available LED head lights.

So I think you get the idea. We’ve put a lot of thought and a lot of comfort and safety systems into the new HS.

But we’ve also made sure that the HS gives back.

We’ve used plant-based eco plastics in upholstery and luggage trim and trunk panels, as well as in foam and injected molded parts. In total, 30 percent of the interior and cargo area utilizes eco plastics.

In fact, 85% of the HS, including the battery, can be recycled.

So there you have it, the first dedicated luxury hybrid, the 2010 HS 250h, a car for buyers who want luxury, high mileage, low emissions, usable technology and value.

Ladies and gentlemen I am very pleased to have with us today the person most responsible for the development of the all-new HS, Chief Engineer Hiroyuki Koba.

Every year since we showed the first RX hybrid in 2005 we’ve introduced a new luxury hybrid. And this year we’re debuting the first-ever dedicated luxury hybrid.

To date Lexus has sold more than 157,000 hybrid vehicles worldwide. No one has the experience with luxury hybrids that Lexus does.

We’re excited that the HS is one of three launches this coming year. In addition to the HS, the all-new RX starts arriving at dealerships next month.

The IS convertible will hit showrooms in late Spring. The IS C will give us a convertible coupe in the entry luxury segment for the first time ever.

You know, we started out twenty years ago relentlessly pursuing perfection, then we got passionate about it, and now we are pursuing perfection and innovation in ways our customers never thought possible. The HS 250 is the anniversary present we are sharing with you today. The HS is all hybrid and all Lexus and we can’t wait until it goes on sale late this summer.

Now at this time I’d like to give the photographers in attendance a chance to take pictures of the HS. After that I invite you all to come up and take a closer look.

Thank you and please enjoy the rest of the show….
Source: http://thepassionatepursuit.com/2009...deo/#more-1424

ffpower says: Now we know it will do at least better than 33 mpg city (on track with my analysis of 35 mpg combine), runs on regular and what the front camera is for.
Old 01-12-09, 08:58 AM
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The interior should be okay (esp. with the EV mode, eco mode and power mode buttons). Not sure if I'll be disappointed by the lack of manual mode and paddle shifters but I'll see if this car has something that can compensate for the lack of such.

That and while many on carspyshots.net have dissed the exterior design, I personally believe that it's just average (nothing ugly but nothing neat).

At least is still slightly better designed than the new RX (which still looks like ATROCIOUS ****ING UGLY ****)
Old 01-12-09, 09:00 AM
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we cannot compare the prius with the HS. if anything this car competes with the camry hybrid. they share the same engine and overall hybrid powertrain.

note: HS/Camry has 187 horsepower, Prius has 110. that extra 70 horsepower will reduce mpg by the 20, as seen in the real numbers
Old 01-12-09, 10:44 AM
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I hate to say this but after seeing the HS250h, the IS250C has never looked so good.

I want the old Lexus back. Then again, I'm still driving a first gen SC.
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Originally Posted by SC_coupe
I want the old Lexus back. Then again, I'm still driving a first gen SC.
I don't want the old Lexus back but I want the original L-Finesse (3GS, 2IS and LS460) back.
Old 01-12-09, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DanDaMan
This car is just plain fugly! This is just embarassing! It looks cheap, looks more like a Corolla. Most premium brand vehicles you just know by looking at them that they are of a higher class. THis isn't a Lexus. It should have been placed on the Toyota stand and not Lexus. Geezus... I'm shocked!

Why not put a hybrid engine in the IS??? Much much better looking car at least, and rear wheel drive! There's a reason why BMW, Merc etc don't do FWD vehicles. THis will just cheapen the Lexus brand unfortunately.

Siiggghhh
1. The IS is compromised b/c of style. Its the most stylish car in its class. This killed rear seat room and made the trunk smaller. If Lexus somehow made a hybrid IS it would literally have a 4 cubic foot TOPS trunk. It would also weigh 4000 lbs.
2. The IS is the SPORTIEST Lexus.
3. Lexus wanted a dedicated model to position between the IS and ES.
4. Merc AND Audi have FWD cars. BMW's 1 series is RWD still.
Old 01-12-09, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
and while some design parts are just foul, like the tacked on bits front and rear, the rest is basically a squashed LS460 if you compare the two.
I was thinking the same thing - that's what blows it for me...

Then again, I've always defended Lexus for similar design cues between the ES, Camry & the LS, etc.... ad nauseam!

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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Siiggghhh
1. The IS is compromised b/c of style. Its the most stylish car in its class. This killed rear seat room and made the trunk smaller. If Lexus somehow made a hybrid IS it would literally have a 4 cubic foot TOPS trunk. It would also weigh 4000 lbs.
2. The IS is the SPORTIEST Lexus.
3. Lexus wanted a dedicated model to position between the IS and ES.
4. Merc AND Audi have FWD cars. BMW's 1 series is RWD still.
Making the car taller and longer without making it wider is the biggest problem. It looks like a giant Corolla. The only thing that could make the car look more like Doodoo is changing the color to brown.


Also, Why would a Hybrid IS weigh 4000 lbs... and that vehicle shown, not be 4000lbs. The HS is taller and longer... if it weighs less than an IS250, then there is nothing stopping a smaller IS looking hybrid from weighing even less.

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Originally Posted by Allen K
The live stock tracker might cause more accidents than holding a phone or texting ;p
i must live in the country cuz i read that as "livestock tracker"...


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Originally Posted by tqlla3k
Also, Why would a Hybrid IS weigh 4000 lbs... and that vehicle shown, not be 4000lbs. The HS is taller and longer... if it weighs less than an IS250, then there is nothing stopping a smaller IS looking hybrid from weighing even less.
Uh... FWD vs. RWD? Hello... Anybody home?

Do you know how much does an IS350 weigh? Don't let the size fool you, the tiny 2IS is actually a very heavy car for its size.
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Originally Posted by tqlla3k
Making the car taller and longer without making it wider is the biggest problem. It looks like a giant Corolla. The only thing that could make the car look more like Doodoo is changing the color to brown.


Also, Why would a Hybrid IS weigh 4000 lbs... and that vehicle shown, not be 4000lbs. The HS is taller and longer... if it weighs less than an IS250, then there is nothing stopping a smaller IS looking hybrid from weighing even less.
I think a lot of people here need to read this entire thread before jumping to conclusions. The reason the car is taller is b/c unlike the other Lexus hybrid sedans, the HS has the batteries UNDER the car. This helps create more space for the trunk and interior but it will make for a taller car.

Did you not read my post WHY no IS hybrid is possible? The batteries will not fit. The IS is based off the GS platform, its already heavy. A loaded IS hybrid would weight right around 3900-4000 lbs.

I have no idea how much this HS weighs. I estimate 3600 lbs.

As for the design I am not going to defend it but I actually don't mind it. If I want a stylish hybrid, then get the GS 450h.
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Originally Posted by *wishlist*
i think people aren't liking it because they keep seeing new cars coming out and they're all sedans. they want to see the sports inspired coupe already. and so do i, but these cars are also very good.

no. we're just spoiled by all the good looking elements of other concept cars.

they all make this HS look boxy and plain and dated.

you can play raquetball off of the doors.
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
well, at least audi also gets called out for being a VW.
Well, a least it's completely untrue. Unlike Lexus, which is a on Toyota's left arm, Audi is a wholly owned subsidiary of Volkswagen Group, one which enbarks on it's own development and engineering endeavors. Nobody's going to mistake an Audi for a VW, of which they have completely different styling language as well as interior. What's next, a Lamborghini is just a VW? Bentley is just another VW? Please. Any negative backlash Lexus may be garnering for not being distinctive enough with their products from parent Toyota is warranted. You can rest the case entirely on this "HS250h". Compare that to the Audi A3. That car looks like a Volkswagen? Really? I'd love for you to point that out. Becuase the idea that Audi "is just a VW" is complete and utter nonsense. It has nothing to back it up.


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