Sigh - no folding seats
11-05-09, 09:45 AM
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Which part of the HS250h is a hybrid do you not understand?
For all those luxury cars that you've owned, do any of them have to carry a bunch of battery packs?
READ CLOSELY, no one is trying to say the HS250h doesn't have folding seats is due to body stiffness or noise issues, it's simply that THEY NEED TO PUT THE BATTERIES SOMEWHERE!! Also, the HS is a sedan unlike the higher RX450h which the engineers can tuck the batteries underneath.
11-05-09, 11:24 AM
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Good lord...
Which part of the HS250h is a hybrid do you not understand?
For all those luxury cars that you've owned, do any of them have to carry a bunch of battery packs?
READ CLOSELY, no one is trying to say the HS250h doesn't have folding seats is due to body stiffness or noise issues, it's simply that THEY NEED TO PUT THE BATTERIES SOMEWHERE!! Also, the HS is a sedan unlike the higher RX450h which the engineers can tuck the batteries underneath.
Which part of the HS250h is a hybrid do you not understand?
For all those luxury cars that you've owned, do any of them have to carry a bunch of battery packs?
READ CLOSELY, no one is trying to say the HS250h doesn't have folding seats is due to body stiffness or noise issues, it's simply that THEY NEED TO PUT THE BATTERIES SOMEWHERE!! Also, the HS is a sedan unlike the higher RX450h which the engineers can tuck the batteries underneath.
Chevrolet Malibu
Honda Insight
Nissan Altima
Saturn Aura
Toyota Camry
Toyota Prius
In fact, the list of hybrids without folding seats is shorter. Like I said, we aren't going to reach consensus here. I think it's a design shortcoming. You apparently can live with it. Such is the reason there is more than one vehicle available to purchase
11-05-09, 11:30 AM
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4-door Hybrid vehicles with folding rear seats:
Chevrolet Malibu
Honda Insight
Nissan Altima
Saturn Aura
Toyota Camry
Toyota Prius
In fact, the list of hybrids without folding seats is shorter. Like I said, we aren't going to reach consensus here. I think it's a design shortcoming. You apparently can live with it. Such is the reason there is more than one vehicle available to purchase
Chevrolet Malibu
Honda Insight
Nissan Altima
Saturn Aura
Toyota Camry
Toyota Prius
In fact, the list of hybrids without folding seats is shorter. Like I said, we aren't going to reach consensus here. I think it's a design shortcoming. You apparently can live with it. Such is the reason there is more than one vehicle available to purchase
11-05-09, 12:04 PM
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4-door Hybrid vehicles with folding rear seats:
Chevrolet Malibu
Honda Insight
Nissan Altima
Saturn Aura
Toyota Camry
Toyota Prius
In fact, the list of hybrids without folding seats is shorter. Like I said, we aren't going to reach consensus here. I think it's a design shortcoming. You apparently can live with it. Such is the reason there is more than one vehicle available to purchase
Chevrolet Malibu
Honda Insight
Nissan Altima
Saturn Aura
Toyota Camry
Toyota Prius
In fact, the list of hybrids without folding seats is shorter. Like I said, we aren't going to reach consensus here. I think it's a design shortcoming. You apparently can live with it. Such is the reason there is more than one vehicle available to purchase
And this is the amount of access (or the lack of) that you get from the folding seats with the batteries in the trunk:
Altima Hybrid:
"Hybrid battery eliminates a fold-down rear seat"
http://alternativefuels.about.com/od...maHybrid_2.htm
Malibu Hybrid / Aura Hybrid:
The Malibu Hybrid is a mild hybrid, which means it's a joke comparing to the Toyota HSD system...
Saturn Aura Hybrid uses the same system as the Malibu hybrid.
The black box with the blue cable houses the 36-volt hybrid battery that powers the motor/alternator for engine assist as well as restarting the engine from AUTO STOP mode. Protective cover removed for photo.
http://alternativefuels.about.com/od...id-battery.htm
Toyota Prius:
Toyota Prius is a hatch back, which make it have more room in the trunk area. As you can see from the picture, in that area the cabin is also much taller comparing to the Camry hybrid.
http://alternativefuels.about.com/od...id-battery.htm
Honda Insight:
See Prius.
http://alternativefuels.about.com/od...ht-battery.htm
11-06-09, 12:41 AM
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I do think that having folding seats in general would be an asset for an entry-level Lexus car...did the first IS have them? In any case, I have used the folding seats in the RX, and in Camrys, the TSX etc--useful for those large items.
The LSh trunk was expanded yet again this year, but the HS trunk is quite sizeable for a hybrid sedan.
The LSh trunk was expanded yet again this year, but the HS trunk is quite sizeable for a hybrid sedan.
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