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Old 02-07-20, 02:02 PM
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my hs250 has 118,000 miles on in, all owners were in NY, and I dont think they ever changed them.

I saw my dust sheild was ripped for the fronts, but after 3 oil changes and lexus and toyotas hundred point inspections they never mentioned it to me....

noticed my car was bouncing on bumps, took it to a local mechanic and he looked, driver side is leaking green fluid and the other side needs to be fixed.

Lexus has a sale %15 off for valentines day, and since I can pick up the parts myself I can save on shipping.

The guy at the shop said my back shocks are fine. weird I guess but 100,000 miles on NY roads will destory any shocks, all the pot holes snow, and salt...

with the sale and no shipping my 2 shocks come out to $377.87 and I get them installed for $300 at local shop since its just a regular car repair and I dont think you need to be a hybrid specialist to do t he repairs

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You are correct. Any shop can replace your struts as it is a regular car repair. Be sure to get an alignment after the struts are replaced or you will wear out your tires real fast.

If your budget can afford it, you should get the rear shocks too as they only cost about $95 for both and the labor to install them will be under $100.
Having all 4 replaced will make a huge difference in your ride after 118,000 miles.

How long have you had it? If it is a 2010, has it had the transmission replaced under the recall yet?
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Originally Posted by Clutchless
You are correct. Any shop can replace your struts as it is a regular car repair. Be sure to get an alignment after the struts are replaced or you will wear out your tires real fast.

If your budget can afford it, you should get the rear shocks too as they only cost about $95 for both and the labor to install them will be under $100.
Having all 4 replaced will make a huge difference in your ride after 118,000 miles.

How long have you had it? If it is a 2010, has it had the transmission replaced under the recall yet?

Yeah transmittion was done when I first got it.

Do you think I should replace t he back ones too? the guy said they were fine
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If you can afford the $300 extra cost, you should replace the back ones. It will improve your ride.
Old 02-19-20, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Clutchless
If you can afford the $300 extra cost, you should replace the back ones. It will improve your ride.
How come the same guy that quoted me $300 for both fronts is quoting me $400 for the rears? are they harder to do?
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No, they are far easier. However you have to pull back some of the trunk lining and the top of the rear shock has a weird bolt arrangement. You also have to move your bump stop and cover over from the old shock to the new shock. I replaced both of mine in less than an hour at my home garage.

I attached the service manual pages that cover replacement of both the rear shocks and the front struts so you can see what is involved. You may want to print them and show them to the shop to negotiate a lower price for the rear shocks. Note the trunk liner sections just pull away to get at the shock and you do not have to pull that much apart. Then it just gets pushed back in place.

Good luck!
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Old 02-20-20, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Clutchless
No, they are far easier. However you have to pull back some of the trunk lining and the top of the rear shock has a weird bolt arrangement. You also have to move your bump stop and cover over from the old shock to the new shock. I replaced both of mine in less than an hour at my home garage.

I attached the service manual pages that cover replacement of both the rear shocks and the front struts so you can see what is involved. You may want to print them and show them to the shop to negotiate a lower price for the rear shocks. Note the trunk liner sections just pull away to get at the shock and you do not have to pull that much apart. Then it just gets pushed back in place.

Good luck!

what is the bump stock and cover? I see the shocks

https://parts.rallyelexus.com/p/Lexu...cation=9004538

they are pretty cheap compared to the fronts. what other parts do you think I need?
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In my opinion you do not need any more parts than the shocks for the rear.
In the PDF I attached titled rear shocks it is called Rear No. 1 Spring Cover. It has 2 parts that you move from your old shock to the new shock. They simply slide off the chrome shaft. The two parts are the yellow thing below that looks like a thick donut that is the "spring" part which is really a bump stop, then the long thing which is the cover.
Just use your old ones, that is what I did, they do not wear out.
If you have to buy new ones they are in this link to Rock Auto which also includes the 4 parts lined up in the photo below which are the new upper rear shock mount hardware. However I just re-used all that old stuff. If you want to spend another $50 plus shipping
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...ock+mount,7572



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Old 08-31-21, 07:55 AM
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Will you look into front strut assembly 2011 Scion tC strut assembly may work for HS250H? If it can be modified possibly? Thanks
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You already read the answer to your question in the other thread about a solution to our front struts wherein WNYHS250h said the 2011 Scion tC and 2012 Prius V front strut assemblies will work if you remove one plate. We just need to further identify that plate by part number or diagram. You or your mechanic could probably figure it out by comparing one of those assemblies to your HS250h assembly. I am unclear what he means by a plate that can be removed based on my experience replacing struts.

That plate may not make a difference if the strut mount and everything else is the same as the HS parts. It depends if the overall length is the same etc. If it is a complete assembly and it looks just like the HS one top to bottom, I would just bolt it on! Be sure to get new sway bar end links as they are usually rusted and need to be cut off!

However, if you are just replacing the struts and re-using your springs etc, then there is no issue, just get the KYB or Monroe struts. You do need a spring compressor or pay a shop to do compress the springs and swap the parts after you remove the strut, or have them do the complete replacement.

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Old 09-18-21, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Clutchless
You already read the answer to your question in the other thread about a solution to our front struts wherein WNYHS250h said the 2011 Scion tC and 2012 Prius V front strut assemblies will work if you remove one plate. We just need to further identify that plate by part number or diagram. You or your mechanic could probably figure it out by comparing one of those assemblies to your HS250h assembly. I am unclear what he means by a plate that can be removed based on my experience replacing struts.

That plate may not make a difference if the strut mount and everything else is the same as the HS parts. It depends if the overall length is the same etc. If it is a complete assembly and it looks just like the HS one top to bottom, I would just bolt it on! Be sure to get new sway bar end links as they are usually rusted and need to be cut off!

However, if you are just replacing the struts and re-using your springs etc, then there is no issue, just get the KYB or Monroe struts. You do need a spring compressor or pay a shop to do compress the springs and swap the parts after you remove the strut, or have them do the complete replacement.
FYI - there's nothing to remove. It works as-is. If you compare part-by-part, the ONLY differences with the TC coilover assembly and the Lexus parts are the coil itself and the shock. The upper mounting plate is the same exact part number (all ten digits, not the first five), and the HS/TC/Prius V all have the same steering knuckle part (ten digits), as well as stabilizer links (ten digits).

It's a bit more labor to swap out the springs and all, and the TC coilovers are cheaper than the unassembled Lexus Shocks anyway. I don't like to reuse springs because they do wear out, and depending on how long you've been driving on a bad shock and misaligned car, you're going to have unbalanced springs.

In this case, it's cheaper AND easier, both in labor and parts, to simply get the TC fully assembled. It works beautifully with the HS. I've been driving more than 2 weeks on mine and the car drives as if it was new. Very refreshing.
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Originally Posted by Errolflin
Will you look into front strut assembly 2011 Scion tC strut assembly may work for HS250H? If it can be modified possibly? Thanks
No need to modify. I did it earlier this month and have been driving on tC struts (KYB) for over 2 weeks. Car doesn't feel high or low, and rides as if it was new.

It's a very good alternative. Less to pay in labor AND you can get tC struts from KYB cheaper than you can get the unassembled shocks alone (literally only the shocks).

So in essence for less money in parts AND labor, you get new shocks, springs, and mounts. No need to worry about worn springs or worn mounts. No need to worry about misbalanced springs. Easy 1-2 hour job depending on your shop.
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Thanks WNYhs250h for updating the forum, I’ve received the pair of Scion tC struts and plan to install them with new sway bar links this week. The only difference I found between these and those on the vehicle was the coil spring is fractionally thinner. Not to worry as saving $1000 or more using this option!
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Originally Posted by Errolflin
Will you look into front strut assembly 2011 Scion tC strut assembly may work for HS250H? If it can be modified possibly? Thanks
No need to modify. I did it earlier this month and have been driving on tC struts (KYB) for over 2 weeks. Car doesn't feel high or low, and rides as if it was new.

It's a very good alternative. Less to pay in labor AND you can get tC struts from KYB cheaper than you can get the unassembled shocks alone (literally only the shocks).

So in essence for less money in parts AND labor, you get new shocks, springs, and mounts. No need to worry about worn springs or worn mounts. No need to worry about misbalanced springs. Easy 1-2 hour job depending on your shop.
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I compared them and the springs didn't seem too different. By "fractionally different" do you mean it's a modest difference?
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Considering those springs and the struts were made for the Scion tC which weighs almost 700 pounds less than the HS250h, (the Prius V is only 400 pounds less) the fact that you like the ride is surprising. Let's see how well they hold up over time.
Scion tC weight 3036 - 3091 pounds
Prius V weight 3274 pounds
HS250h weight 3682 - 3770 pounds

Knowing the weight difference makes me reconsider whether I would put those struts, even the struts alone, on my HS. Maybe if they make a stiffer sport strut that may work with the extra weight.

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