rominl

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of course there is pretty noticeable power difference. ls460 is 380hp. ls600hl is rated 430hp (or so). this especially shows on the highway speed pickup, the 600hl is no joke. again, it's about the smoothness

Helmar

LS600hL HP=438, Weight=5360, 0-60=5.4
LS460L HP=380, Weight=4460, 0-60=5.4

0-60 times for both vary by well over a second, depending on the source.

So it would seem that the additional 58 HP is roughly offset by the 900 pounds of additional weight and that the acceleration is about the same.

As I'd said, mileage is slightly better, and emissions are much better on the LS600hL.

Did I also mention the tiny trunk? It hasn't been an issue for me, but for some it may.

So, if it's neither the power nor the mileage, what's the attraction of the LS600hL? For me, here in Maine, the decider was the AWD, not available on the LS460 at the time.

HBH

rominl

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looking at 0-60 on a car of this size and weight is quite silly. when it comes to v8/v12 power, it's more about highway speed pickup. when taking the ls460l and ls600hl from 75mph to 120mph and it will become very obvious how much better the 600hl is. it's completely effortless and thus maintain the high level of smoothness

Helmar

Ok, you're right. It IS silly.

Having said that, though, (on very rare occasion), I'm guilty of having enjoyed a red light "race" with a BMW, Audi, or some such that's pulled into the wrong lane on my right and expects to zip ahead of me and cut me off. Immature? You bet. Aren't most men?

The (relatively) silent spurt from 30-70 though is especially thrilling, especially so with the lack of any downshifts...

I haven't had it up that fast yet, but in a few weeks on my cross country drive, somewhere in CA, AZ or NM, I might just try it.........whoosh

HBH

rominl

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lol we are all guilty of that i am sure. but see, everything comes into place. my post wasn't trying to take down values from yours, but trying to put things more into perspective on where we should focus on.

i still remember back in the days when i had a tl-s and talked to someone with the same car. from freeway onramp to 70mph against a gs400 it was dead on, but after that, no matter how he tried, the gs400 completely destroyed him.

and the fact that you can do 30-70 so effortless that's another proof already, you can't do that as easily in the ls460 without the engine working harder.

just make sure you get your v1 ready before pushing the car. put it in sport mode and off you go!

jaser35x

Either way, we're definitely a "sleeper" ....... that get up and go CAN get up and go when it needs to!!!!

adamls2

LOLZ true that, its funny to humiliate civics and other challengers ^_^

Gojirra99

Facelifted grill for the 600h looks ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE, that alone would be the deal breaker for me .....