Help! Im stuck at 28mpg
#1
Help! Im stuck at 28mpg
ive owned our 2012 RX450h since November and i drive it around the suburbs mostly. we live in florida and there are no hills. we basicially drive our car to the grocery store, kid events, and around town. some highway, but mostly suburban roads.
I have the car in Economy mode 24/7
i always use the EV all electric mode for the last 2 miles in my neighborhood which usually raises the mpg average another 1 to 1.5 higher...
ive refueled four times now and my average after refueling is always at 28mpg. thats combned highway and city. believe it or not, i get better gas mileage at higher speeds because i can coast a lot more than suburban roads. i do not accelerate hard out of stop lights and traffic, and i usually start off slow after a complete stop which has to anger the driver behind me.
SO WHY am i stuck at 28mpg average. im doing everything right. my tire psi is between 30-33 so i could probably increase it. What else can i do to get closer to the average on the window sticker??????.
I have the car in Economy mode 24/7
i always use the EV all electric mode for the last 2 miles in my neighborhood which usually raises the mpg average another 1 to 1.5 higher...
ive refueled four times now and my average after refueling is always at 28mpg. thats combned highway and city. believe it or not, i get better gas mileage at higher speeds because i can coast a lot more than suburban roads. i do not accelerate hard out of stop lights and traffic, and i usually start off slow after a complete stop which has to anger the driver behind me.
SO WHY am i stuck at 28mpg average. im doing everything right. my tire psi is between 30-33 so i could probably increase it. What else can i do to get closer to the average on the window sticker??????.
#3
ive owned our 2012 RX450h since November and i drive it around the suburbs mostly. we live in florida and there are no hills. we basicially drive our car to the grocery store, kid events, and around town. some highway, but mostly suburban roads.
I have the car in Economy mode 24/7
i always use the EV all electric mode for the last 2 miles in my neighborhood which usually raises the mpg average another 1 to 1.5 higher...
ive refueled four times now and my average after refueling is always at 28mpg. thats combned highway and city. believe it or not, i get better gas mileage at higher speeds because i can coast a lot more than suburban roads. i do not accelerate hard out of stop lights and traffic, and i usually start off slow after a complete stop which has to anger the driver behind me.
SO WHY am i stuck at 28mpg average. im doing everything right. my tire psi is between 30-33 so i could probably increase it. What else can i do to get closer to the average on the window sticker??????.
I have the car in Economy mode 24/7
i always use the EV all electric mode for the last 2 miles in my neighborhood which usually raises the mpg average another 1 to 1.5 higher...
ive refueled four times now and my average after refueling is always at 28mpg. thats combned highway and city. believe it or not, i get better gas mileage at higher speeds because i can coast a lot more than suburban roads. i do not accelerate hard out of stop lights and traffic, and i usually start off slow after a complete stop which has to anger the driver behind me.
SO WHY am i stuck at 28mpg average. im doing everything right. my tire psi is between 30-33 so i could probably increase it. What else can i do to get closer to the average on the window sticker??????.
#5
If you are getting 28 MPG with relatively short trips to the grocery store and around town, then you are getting good mileage for an AWD 450h. A FWD model, like mine, can get about 2 MPG more ... around 30 MPG overall. I'm retired and will often just take my RX for a drive, typically late at night. Even late at night, under ideal conditions and driving to optimize mileage I typically can only squeeze 33 to 34 MPG out of the car (possibly 36 if I am lucky). Throw in traffic during the day and having to move with traffic and 30 MPG starts looking good. On a random day I would not commit to more than 30 MPG. I have a good friend that also has a RX 450h that is identical to mine, except his is AWD. A few months ago he told me that his mileage for the first 10,000 miles was 27.9 MPG.
What are your expectations?
What are your expectations?
Last edited by UCSB; 02-15-12 at 04:09 PM.
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#8
You need to drive further at a moderate speed to get better milage. The engine needs to warm up and then it becomes most efficient. If you are only going a few miles the car never gets a chance to warm up and hit the sweet spot. I notice this with mine when I just run out to get groceries the 'since last fill" number goes up. However if I drive it clear across town it goes down.
I am averaging around 9.6l/ 100km and have about 4000 km's. It is winter here so numbers will improve when summer comes around.
I am averaging around 9.6l/ 100km and have about 4000 km's. It is winter here so numbers will improve when summer comes around.
#9
FWIW, I run my tires at 32. If you have a FWD, you will be able to hit 30 ... especially on flat terrain. An easy way to hit better numbers is to drive with your shoes off. This will give you a more accurate feel for what you are doing. Also, if you are accelerating go a little past the speed you are shooting for and then ease off the throttle and just maintain the speed. Coast into lights and other situations that will require you to stop. If you are in a situation that is going to require throttle, I think it is better to get up to speed in a reasonable period of time instead of dragging along under throttle for a longer period of time.
#10
You need to drive further at a moderate speed to get better milage. The engine needs to warm up and then it becomes most efficient. If you are only going a few miles the car never gets a chance to warm up and hit the sweet spot. I notice this with mine when I just run out to get groceries the 'since last fill" number goes up. However if I drive it clear across town it goes down.
I am averaging around 9.6l/ 100km and have about 4000 km's. It is winter here so numbers will improve when summer comes around.
I am averaging around 9.6l/ 100km and have about 4000 km's. It is winter here so numbers will improve when summer comes around.
Last edited by UCSB; 02-15-12 at 06:28 PM.
#13
Hmm, it looks like what I did last year, using battery well to improve efficiency which you do your last 2 miles. I believe that may cause the tendency TO CHARGE WELL when you start up on the next day. I found Toyota's patent describing the tendency of battery recharging for the battery-consumers, and the tendency of using electric power for the gas-consumers. HV system has memory keeping the SOC(state of charge - 40% to 80%) of starting and ending of your last drive, for your next 1 or 2 driving(s). If the delta is minus, then, HV ECU evaluate the driver as battery consumer, so that ECU makes gas engine run higher RPM, until the SOC reaches the target stable volume.
Would you try to keep higher SOC when you take the car in the garage? To check the SOC, select energy monitor on the navigation monitor, or select energy monitor on the multi-information display.
Would you try to keep higher SOC when you take the car in the garage? To check the SOC, select energy monitor on the navigation monitor, or select energy monitor on the multi-information display.
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#15
If you are getting 28 MPG with relatively short trips to the grocery store and around town, then you are getting good mileage for an AWD 450h. A FWD model, like mine, can get about 2 MPG more ... around 30 MPG overall. I'm retired and will often just take my RX for a drive, typically late at night. Even late at night, under ideal conditions and driving to optimize mileage I typically can only squeeze 33 to 34 MPG out of the car (possibly 36 if I am lucky). Throw in traffic during the day and having to move with traffic and 30 MPG starts looking good. On a random day I would not commit to more than 30 MPG. I have a good friend that also has a RX 450h that is identical to mine, except his is AWD. A few months ago he told me that his mileage for the first 10,000 miles was 27.9 MPG.
What are your expectations?
What are your expectations?