NickTee

Again with your red herring fallacies. You are very good at side-stepping questions and taking words out of context, but very bad at addressing the topic at hand. Stop dodging around with your fallacies and get to the point: what does any of this have to do with how you assert that a 130,000 mile, complex hybrid somehow transcends space, time, and wear?

superdenso

Ladies and gentlemen, the LS costs (3-3.5x) more to drive from 0 to 100K than it does from from 100k to 200k, or the purchase price of a new Porsche Boxster.

It seems like a few of you think because you bought an LS you are a car expert. You may want to pick up a book or do some research before you insult someone whose helping you.

AWD owners: The last sentence in post #21 of this thread could assist you.

caha14

Jerold - great to hear about your outcome!


Superdenso, since you just referenced post #21, I came back and saw this. Are you stating this as a general suggestion (i.e., something that can't hurt), or did you hear this directly or indirectly from anyone affiliated with Lexus?

There has been similar (albeit perhaps more extensive) discussion on the need to change transmission fluid, as I'm sure you've seen. As my Lexi age (gracefully, thus far), I have been wondering about many of these unlisted/delayed fluid exchanges, and whether "it's time". This thread, in particular, strikes a chord, even though my 600 is shy of 14k miles...

SW17LS

What does what the car costs have to do with an older car requiring more maintenance and repair than a newer car?

You don't make any sense. Even very expensive things have a lifespan and get less reliable and need more repair as they age.

The only person insulting anybody here is you.

superdenso

caha14 thanks for presenting open dialogue vs. bashing. Your approach is sincerely appreciated.

Lexus recommends checking the diff&transfer fluids for the life of the vehicle. Not a bad direction, if you are going to sell it after 80 or 90K, just check it. If you are going to keep the thing or care about the next owner complaining it's better to dump the fluids. It takes 20 min to change and 10 min to check. Since 1995 I've owned three (FWD) cars with diffs. and four awd suv's with diffs and transfer cases; all built in Japan. As the fluid goes there should be some audible drive-line hum or whine and maybe an additional drag during acceleration.

dealer
http://www.wow-toyota.com/toyota-lan...aintenance.htm

drivers
http://www.yotatech.com/f2/how-often...e-fluid-44792/

SW17LS

LOL, bashing? I'm out.

CJITTY

Folks just need to agree to disagree..lets try to stay on topic please without unnecessary commentary.

As a 600 owner, I realize my car isn't bulletproof, althought it's armor is pretty good. I drive mine daily. I also paid for an extended warranty to carry me out to summer of 2017 and it has paid itself back already. But at a certain point, I know that my battery pack, inverter and other $$$$$$$ components will fail or need repair. Sometimes I have to remind myself that my car was at one point about $120K and I paid a fraction of that..but the parts are what they are and indeed expensive when things go wrong. Work your possible discounts and see what you can do, but be prepared to pay

caha14

Thank you for the information. I remember when I had an Acura TL Type S with the infamous 5-speed box. I would drain and refill at 15k. So, I am definitely on board with this general idea; I don't want to change anything prematurely, but I'm also not quite on board with Lexus USA's notion of lifetime fluids in various areas.

With the transfer case in particular, what would give me pause is that the cost of the currently-recommended fluid on the LS is high. Of course, it will still pale in comparison to the cost of a replacement transfer case, so one need not be penny-wise and dollar-foolish. I will look into it. In fact, I still have an unresolved shudder issue that may or may not be tied to the transfer case (outside the well-known TSIB) or CVT, possibly.

Separately, as my LX sits at the dealership for maintenance, I have asked about differential, transfer case and transmission fluids. I know I could tackle the first two, but I'm not touching the tranny. More broadly, though, they are all pretty much in the "inspect" category in the maintenance schedule, and after 5.5 years and 50k miles, it seems worthwhile to ask the question.

Toys4RJill

Some interesting comments from both sides of the argument on what happened and should or would one expect it to happen.

130k is a lot of miles for any car, even for a Toyota/Lexus, but generally speaking Toyota/Lexus models usually last a lot longer than other brands and I would not expect this to happen to a Lexus that is 8 years old and one that has 130k. Powertrain components usually are good for a long time, the transfer case should not be expected to fail and good job on the part of Lexus for doing some goodwill and paying for the part replacing the part.

hfahmy

I appreciate if anyone can answer the question about if the transfer case is the same as the one used in the 460 AWD?

Toys4RJill

Yes. Same part.

hfahmy

Thank you!!! So, this is not an LS600 specific problem, it applies to all AWD LSs

roadfrog

As already noted....same part. Ergo....same problem.