satiger

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Sorry riknchar for late response. Thanks on the heads up.

I contacted them few weeks back on the same car. Since I am interested in tan/beige interior, decided to pass. However, they kept contacting me asking what is the best I could offer. I too noticed it sat on the lot for longer than I would expect from loaded, low miles 600. Not sure why.

satiger

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Thanks on Tesla feedback. Looks like their interior is not as comparable as LS. What do you think of their technology?. I did read some where, some Tesla models have the ability to program suspension based on GPS coordination. In order words, based on certain parts on road, if one wants to stiffens the suspension that could be program. Have you seen that feature?.

Based on my limited research Benz is leading the pack when it comes to technology integration. Any new car sells for more than $80k, they shouldn't even advertise heated seats /steering wheels as a feature. That is dated. Hope Lexus catches up technology with 2018 models.............let see.

sktn77a

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How on earth are you getting 700 miles a day out of a car that the manufacturer specs at 250 miles before an overnight (220v) charge?

sorka

How would you do it with a car? You get gas. It's no different. I get electricity. Each 15 minute stop to charge gets us another 2 to 3 hours driving. The car charges at 350 MPH. How do you think folks drive across the country in 24 hours with Teslas While we're filling up, we hit the restrooms, get drinks and every 3 stop or so sit down for a meal which is typically twice in a 12 hour drive.

Tesla Supercharger map. 120KW Level 3 charging.

Doublebase

If I was driving 110 miles a day I'd seriously just consider a normal LS460, you're not going to save anything in gas with the 600, plus with the amount of miles you'll be putting on it you're going to run into more issues. I have friends that own the 600 and they've had some pretty big and expensive problems with the hybrid system. If you're not saving on fuel, why bother? Of course I'm assuming that the 110 mile commute is mostly highway. By the sound of it you keep your vehicles a long time and put a ton of miles on them...the less complicated the vehicle the better. Just my two cents.

sktn77a

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Ah, OK. Love the car but can't be bothered to plan out my drives in that much detail!

sorka

The suspension on the Model S doesn't have any firmness control at all. The only adjustment you can make on the suspension is the height. The height can be geofenced. For instance, when you raise the suspension to handle a steep driveway curb or a parking location with curbs or wheel stops, the car will remember where you raised the suspension and it will do so each time you return to the location. It does this automatically. If you don't want it to remember the height you select based on location, you can press the "auto save" x to strike it out and it will only be temporary and not permanent for that location.

sorka

Neither can I. That's why I let the Tesla nav plan out the charging stops. Based on the route, it tells me where I should stop and how long I'll need to charge at each stop. So far it hasn't been any more inconvenient than driving our Prius on the same long trips.

SW17LS

Until you're able to stop and fully charge as conveniently and quickly as with a gas fuel up (i.e, chargers everywhere, a full charge in ~ 5min) you will always have people like sktn, and me, who can't integrate an electric car into their daily lives. For instance, I just got back from a long trip in my LS, I drove 330 miles there, never stopped. Had 1/3rd of a tank left when I got there. Bummed around some while I was there (my cousin drove us around mostly because we went to places where I wouldn't want to take the LS). Its rural there, in the mountains. We rented a small cabin (no place to charge it). Yesterday got up, ran around some more. Fueled up at about 1/8th tank. Drove all the way home 330 miles, and the car has again about 1/3rd tank left. So my total time spent fueling for this entire trip of about 700 miles driving the LS was about 3 minutes yesterday afternoon. The only concern for me is how filthy the car is lol.

I would not have felt comfortable in a Tesla for this trip, even if it would have physically been possible.

For people like you to whom the technology is important and impressive, you're willing to put up with some inconvenience to be driving a Tesla (that includes range anxiety, planning charging solutions, driving a car thats interior and refinement levels on the road are lacking commensurate with its price), people like us aren't. They have a way to go before they're going to sell an EV car to folks like us.

Although I will say, we walked out of a little restaurant in the mountains of southern WV, and there sat a Tesla! I was shocked...

Lexuslsguy

With how comfortable Tesla seats are you need to stop every 2 hours to stretch and maybe take some pain medication. Especially the back. I have been in compact cars with a better backseat then the Tesla. If I'm alone I can easily drive 4 - 5 hours before stopping. And with massage front seats...

sorka

If you look hard enough, you'll always be able to find some scenario where you think something won't work because of something else. In this case, I suspect it's not even true. I myself have a cabin that's about 220 miles away located deep in the mountains. (now it turns out there is a supercharger along the way in Groveland, CA, but I don't even need to use it because I can plug into 110v and trickle charge over night while I'm at the cabin. In our Prius, we'd have stop for gas at some time, but in the Tesla we end up never stopping for gas on these 450+ mile round trips. We leave from home fully charged. We leave from there fully charge.

Same with my crazy long *** commute to work. I leave home 80% charged(I don't need a full charge). I leave work 80% charged. I save time over my 280 mile roundtrip commute by not ever needing to stop at a fueling station. Week after week I save myself all of these stops that I'd normally have to do in a gas car because I end up fueling at the end points.

I too had reservations and came up with scenarios where a long range BEV wouldn't work for me when I was vetting the purchase. In reality, it turned out non of them were issues. Those 5 minute stops were never 5 minute stops. They were always 10 to 15 minutes stops even before the Tesla, so in reality we don't actually take longer to charge on trips but we spend less time filling up on medium long trips now because we will up at the end points rather than some point along the way.

sorka

The first seats sucked and are far worse than our Prius. The Next Gen seats are 10 times better and are better than most cars. The third generation seats comfort wise are better than our SC430 seats by far. The Lexus still has better fit and finish and better quality materials, but the seats the current seats in Tesla's are pretty awesome.