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How is the ES300 Hybrid Ranked in the Lexus Canon?

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Old 01-05-19, 09:13 AM
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I currently own a 2010 ES350 and considering a 300h; I’m searching for some of the same answers as the OP.
However, I’m also wondering if there is additional, more expensive, maintenance required on the 300h compared to the 350. Things that would require more attention like the regenerative brakes, battery pack components, or other parts I’m not aware of and am I asking for trouble by getting a 60,000 mile one that is out of warranty? I own 2 Lexus vehicles and have been very happy with the quality and reliability so looking for the same in the hybrid.

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Originally Posted by AbeFromann
I currently own a 2010 ES350 and considering a 300h; I’m searching for some of the same answers as the OP.
However, I’m also wondering if there is additional, more expensive, maintenance required on the 300h compared to the 350. Things that would require more attention like the regenerative brakes, battery pack components, or other parts I’m not aware of and am I asking for trouble by getting a 60,000 mile one that is out of warranty? I own 2 Lexus vehicles and have been very happy with the quality and reliability so looking for the same in the hybrid.

Thanks,
AF
I currently have a 2011 Camry hybrid (getting my new ES hybrid in a month or two) that I bought new in 2010 so I have a good amount of experience with Toyota's hybrid system (same used by Lexus). I haven't had any additional maintenance costs. I really don't know how long the batteries last but I'm at over 8 years and 160,000 miles and I haven't noticed any sign of the batteries having an issue. I would expect if the batteries were having a problem my MPG would be down and it isn't. As for the regenerative braking it actually requires LESS maintenance. Since the regenerative braking is capturing so much of the energy when braking it puts less stress on the brake pads. For example, my previous car was a 2000 Corolla. I had to do front brakes like every 60,000-70,000 miles. On my Camry hybrid I still have like 50-60% left on the ORIGINAL brake pads. That's 160,000 miles with no new front brakes.
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ZES: Maybe it's because you live in Colorado. I did not have this problem when I lived in CT. If I do not do this and leave my car for a week (for instance when I fly out of town and leave the car at the airport for a week) I have to open the windows, run the car for about two minutes to clear out the AC system otherwise the whole car as well as me will smell stale. It took me a while to figure this out. And this has happened on multiple LS 460s and two ES 350s.
Thanks yes. I also now run the fan on full with fresh air without the AC to dry everything out about 5 mins before the end of the trip. Also the AC sometimes likes to go to recirc and I manually switch it to fresh air. That seems to help.
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Originally Posted by jimv1983
I currently have a 2011 Camry hybrid (getting my new ES hybrid in a month or two) that I bought new in 2010 so I have a good amount of experience with Toyota's hybrid system (same used by Lexus). I haven't had any additional maintenance costs. I really don't know how long the batteries last but I'm at over 8 years and 160,000 miles and I haven't noticed any sign of the batteries having an issue. I would expect if the batteries were having a problem my MPG would be down and it isn't. As for the regenerative braking it actually requires LESS maintenance. Since the regenerative braking is capturing so much of the energy when braking it puts less stress on the brake pads. For example, my previous car was a 2000 Corolla. I had to do front brakes like every 60,000-70,000 miles. On my Camry hybrid I still have like 50-60% left on the ORIGINAL brake pads. That's 160,000 miles with no new front brakes.
I agree with these comments. Our NX is our 4th Toyota/Lexus Hybrid. Never a single issue with the hybrid system and brakes show very light wear. I have only known one person with a Camry hybrid that needed a new main drive battery. It was at ten years and 120K miles. Overall, you will find the hybrid system to exhibit typical Toyota/Lexus reliability.
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Originally Posted by AbeFromann
I currently own a 2010 ES350 and considering a 300h; I’m searching for some of the same answers as the OP.
However, I’m also wondering if there is additional, more expensive, maintenance required on the 300h compared to the 350. Things that would require more attention like the regenerative brakes, battery pack components, or other parts I’m not aware of and am I asking for trouble by getting a 60,000 mile one that is out of warranty? I own 2 Lexus vehicles and have been very happy with the quality and reliability so looking for the same in the hybrid.

Thanks,
AF
Also, there is no fan belt to maintain.
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Originally Posted by jimv1983
I currently have a 2011 Camry hybrid (getting my new ES hybrid in a month or two) that I bought new in 2010 so I have a good amount of experience with Toyota's hybrid system (same used by Lexus). I haven't had any additional maintenance costs. I really don't know how long the batteries last but I'm at over 8 years and 160,000 miles and I haven't noticed any sign of the batteries having an issue. I would expect if the batteries were having a problem my MPG would be down and it isn't. As for the regenerative braking it actually requires LESS maintenance. Since the regenerative braking is capturing so much of the energy when braking it puts less stress on the brake pads. For example, my previous car was a 2000 Corolla. I had to do front brakes like every 60,000-70,000 miles. On my Camry hybrid I still have like 50-60% left on the ORIGINAL brake pads. That's 160,000 miles with no new front brakes.
Great info, thanks, looking forward to testing out the 300h! I've only driven a loaner 300h for a few miles but I liked it; now I need to test drive one like I'm going to own it.
Thanks all!
AF
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