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11-04-03, 01:54 PM
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IS430 being discussed
The IS430 is being discussed over in the Car Lounge at VWVortex... sounds like an awesome idea!
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1094922
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1094922
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11-04-03, 04:42 PM
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it's good that the topic is discussed somewhere else, though i can definitely see some very funny incorrect post in there. euro taillights? maybe they should get it right the first place. altezza was the first car to have these taillights, and everyone after are copy dogs. so weird coz' i see a jetta the other day with altezza (ooops, i mean apc) taillights.
and those who said it's stupid coz' the car would be so heavy, the front will be heavy, or 80/20 ratio, they should do more homework before saying anything. the i6 on the is3 is a full cast iron block, while the v8 from the GS, SC, LS, they are aluminum block. that alone would make a huge difference. the overall weight of the two engines are pretty much dead even, so the is3 is just as balanced as before...
but i do see some very informative posts though, thumbsup
and those who said it's stupid coz' the car would be so heavy, the front will be heavy, or 80/20 ratio, they should do more homework before saying anything. the i6 on the is3 is a full cast iron block, while the v8 from the GS, SC, LS, they are aluminum block. that alone would make a huge difference. the overall weight of the two engines are pretty much dead even, so the is3 is just as balanced as before...
but i do see some very informative posts though, thumbsup
11-04-03, 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by rominl
it's good that the topic is discussed somewhere else, though i can definitely see some very funny incorrect post in there. euro taillights? maybe they should get it right the first place. altezza was the first car to have these taillights, and everyone after are copy dogs. so weird coz' i see a jetta the other day with altezza (ooops, i mean apc) taillights.
and those who said it's stupid coz' the car would be so heavy, the front will be heavy, or 80/20 ratio, they should do more homework before saying anything. the i6 on the is3 is a full cast iron block, while the v8 from the GS, SC, LS, they are aluminum block. that alone would make a huge difference. the overall weight of the two engines are pretty much dead even, so the is3 is just as balanced as before...
but i do see some very informative posts though, thumbsup
it's good that the topic is discussed somewhere else, though i can definitely see some very funny incorrect post in there. euro taillights? maybe they should get it right the first place. altezza was the first car to have these taillights, and everyone after are copy dogs. so weird coz' i see a jetta the other day with altezza (ooops, i mean apc) taillights.
and those who said it's stupid coz' the car would be so heavy, the front will be heavy, or 80/20 ratio, they should do more homework before saying anything. the i6 on the is3 is a full cast iron block, while the v8 from the GS, SC, LS, they are aluminum block. that alone would make a huge difference. the overall weight of the two engines are pretty much dead even, so the is3 is just as balanced as before...
but i do see some very informative posts though, thumbsup
Just wanted to let you know that the Car Lounge isn't really that VW biased... it really is a mixture of enthusiasts from all car brands...
11-05-03, 12:46 AM
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Originally posted by rominl
it's good that the topic is discussed somewhere else, though i can definitely see some very funny incorrect post in there. euro taillights? maybe they should get it right the first place. altezza was the first car to have these taillights, and everyone after are copy dogs. so weird coz' i see a jetta the other day with altezza (ooops, i mean apc) taillights.
and those who said it's stupid coz' the car would be so heavy, the front will be heavy, or 80/20 ratio, they should do more homework before saying anything. the i6 on the is3 is a full cast iron block, while the v8 from the GS, SC, LS, they are aluminum block. that alone would make a huge difference. the overall weight of the two engines are pretty much dead even, so the is3 is just as balanced as before...
it's good that the topic is discussed somewhere else, though i can definitely see some very funny incorrect post in there. euro taillights? maybe they should get it right the first place. altezza was the first car to have these taillights, and everyone after are copy dogs. so weird coz' i see a jetta the other day with altezza (ooops, i mean apc) taillights.
and those who said it's stupid coz' the car would be so heavy, the front will be heavy, or 80/20 ratio, they should do more homework before saying anything. the i6 on the is3 is a full cast iron block, while the v8 from the GS, SC, LS, they are aluminum block. that alone would make a huge difference. the overall weight of the two engines are pretty much dead even, so the is3 is just as balanced as before...
11-05-03, 08:01 AM
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I've seen a GS430 supercharged so the V8 would be fun to play with.
I think the more practical approach would be to keep the inline 6 and just turbo that from the factory, but that's just me.
I think the more practical approach would be to keep the inline 6 and just turbo that from the factory, but that's just me.
11-05-03, 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by rominl
and those who said it's stupid coz' the car would be so heavy, the front will be heavy, or 80/20 ratio, they should do more homework before saying anything. the i6 on the is3 is a full cast iron block, while the v8 from the GS, SC, LS, they are aluminum block. that alone would make a huge difference. the overall weight of the two engines are pretty much dead even, so the is3 is just as balanced as before...
but i do see some very informative posts though, thumbsup
and those who said it's stupid coz' the car would be so heavy, the front will be heavy, or 80/20 ratio, they should do more homework before saying anything. the i6 on the is3 is a full cast iron block, while the v8 from the GS, SC, LS, they are aluminum block. that alone would make a huge difference. the overall weight of the two engines are pretty much dead even, so the is3 is just as balanced as before...
but i do see some very informative posts though, thumbsup
They used an IS200 for the conversion and the front end was only like 10 or 20kgs heavier.
Like you said, the 430 is an alluminium block, the 2jz's are cast iron (heavy!!!).
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11-13-03, 12:21 PM
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i didn't know they were toying with the idea of a 6-manual :-D But you have to give it to em, while there were a couple condescending people, most of those guys are pretty mature about it.... if you took that topic to a few other forums (e.g. Volvospeed, I can say that cuz i'm a member there) it'd get torn up by a bunch of close-minded snots.
11-13-03, 02:57 PM
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Lexus >Volvo, I think the IS430 looks damn nice, but it seems like a gas guzzler, all V8 are. What about the new 2005 Is300? I hurd they are replacing the I6 with a V6 
, not shure if its true yet, just hurd some stuff.
, not shure if its true yet, just hurd some stuff.
11-13-03, 05:26 PM
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The GS430/LS430 1UZ-FE uses the same amout of gas as the IS300's 2JZ-GE.
GS430 - Mileage 18 / 23
IS300 - Mileage 18 / 25
^ *taken off http://www.new-cars.com/
Plus the IS430 is front end heavy. Nowhere near 80/20. That would be pretty unstreetable.
GS430 - Mileage 18 / 23
IS300 - Mileage 18 / 25
^ *taken off http://www.new-cars.com/
Plus the IS430 is front end heavy. Nowhere near 80/20. That would be pretty unstreetable.
11-13-03, 06:54 PM
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Weight/balance shouldn't be too big of an issue, the aluminum vs. cast iron block has already been mentioned. V8's have been done in cars this size before--last generation C43 AMG and current generation Audi S4 come to mind. Also, just read an article here on CL in the Car Chat forum that M-B plans to put a V8 back in the AMG version of the next-gen C-Class and call it the C55 AMG.
As far as fuel economy, 18/23 would match or beat most super-compacts. Looking at the Dec '03 Road and Track on my desk, EPA mileage numbers for the '04 S4, M3, and C32 are: 15/21, 16/23, and 17/21, respectively.
As far as fuel economy, 18/23 would match or beat most super-compacts. Looking at the Dec '03 Road and Track on my desk, EPA mileage numbers for the '04 S4, M3, and C32 are: 15/21, 16/23, and 17/21, respectively.
11-13-03, 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by AltezzaBob
Plus the IS430 is front end heavy. Nowhere near 80/20. That would be pretty unstreetable.
Plus the IS430 is front end heavy. Nowhere near 80/20. That would be pretty unstreetable.
11-15-03, 04:10 PM
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With all the talk of the IS430 and how wonderful it would be. Let me ask a question to you guys... If the V8 was the answer to power, then why did Toyota opt for the 2JZ engine in the Supra. The 2JZ engine is far and away the superior engine here. Honestly, if they take it out of the IS300 then our cars will go up in value. The enthusiast will never accept the V8 as the answer. They will turbo our engine and create a true beast.