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Old 12-06-23, 02:32 PM
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Have you checked the wastegate BOV? That would do this also.
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Originally Posted by 2013FSport
If you double the voltage you double the wattage and stand a fair chance of melting the coil (magnet). In addition the extra heat could warp materials and heat contact surfaces making slippage more likely.

I'm still thinking you need to understand when and why the valve diverting flow operates. If it doesn't fully seal, although there is no external leak, it simply recirculates the air.

Find it, monitor it, inspect it. If it's not working or not working correctly it could easily be the source of the problem and why you have this so cheap.
Where does the valve usually locate? Inside the supercharger housing? I dont see any out side. Is there any possibility that this kit doesnt come with one? I will remove the supercharger and check again


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Originally Posted by jgscott
Have you checked the wastegate BOV? That would do this also.
There are no BOV on this system
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Some more Operation info:

https://hydemotorworks.com/old-archi...-supercharger/
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I didn't see it in the pictures shared here. Are there any wires in the manifold? If so, follow them.

Facts:
Compressor has a magnetic clutch. Compressor does not freewheel allowing the engine to breath without a bypass.
If the Comprescompressor is not turning it must be bypassed.

Find the bypass valve!
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We have got full boost now. Now can head back to the tunner. Thanks everyone for all the informative feedback. I tlreally appreciate it.

We tigthen up the belt more and it slove the boost issue

stock pulley it makes about 0.5-0.6 bar of boost 7-8 psi

Looking at the pulley ratio. The supercharge still have 10% more head room to play with at 7000rpm

For now I will get it tunned with stock pulley first then if the engine can handle a couple more PSI then I will change the pulley and belt.

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Good to hear! Looks like CL member DickH was the closest to thinking what the problems was being the Clutch pulley belt system slipping at higher RPM's. He mentioned this 2x's on the previous page.

Are you back on the Tom's ECU? Also how/where did you tap in the Boost gauge to measure Boost?

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Old 12-09-23, 01:12 AM
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Back on TOM'S ecu now. The tunner will prolly dyno it again with TOM's map before doing his magic.

I left the car with him now I am leaving for melbourne for a month. Will keep you posted when the car is tunned so we can see the final number.

here is where I tap for boost reference. Straight from intercooler. I prolly need an a digital one. I dont like the sound that the vacuum line bring to the cabin at WOT




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Old 12-11-23, 04:34 PM
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Can't wait to see the Tq numbers of this. That's what the 2GR sucks at most. I wanted one of those Tom's S/C for years now. Maybe one day. That's going to be one fast IS350!
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Any update on this S/C install?
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I had the LMS kit for some time which was using a procharger and a terrible tensioner system which were always needed tension in order to keep the boost at higher RPMs.I believe that the procharger was to small for the engine and even with a tune couldn’t provide the power Rotrex unit did.I gained 120BHP more with the Rotrex and maxed out the 2GR injectors I m using.If I didn’t have the AEM meth kit helping with fuel at high RPMs I would defenatelly have a problem.
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Old 02-06-24, 01:53 AM
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Hi all

Sorry for the delay. Here are some update!

stock pulley
330WHP 44.4kg/M or about 430ish NM E20

Look weak but if you look at the area under the graph. There a lot of gain in the mid range area 50 whp from 3000rpm till 5500 rpm

Based line is my FBO with ported intake manifold




In a nut shell
The SC14 supercharger is too small it flow about 1.5L of air per L

It does not provide enough airflow after 5500 RPM we can see that from the boost map

I have confirmed that there is not clutch and belt slip and we do have enough fuel

With this setup the engine is very happy it drives great pull like a train and zero Lag when you press the gas paddle

I still have some problem with the tensioner so the serpentine belt does squeaks sometimes

I have already order a smaller pulley. With that I am hoping it will get us to 350whp.

I would be mad if buy this kit new but with the money I spend i think its ok but no HP number to brag about haha

But it drives so much better especially with LSD no problem putting down the power



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Old 02-13-24, 10:32 AM
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How exciting! Really hope you enjoy it Thannp and can figure out how to maximize the top end.

The torque increase in the lower rpms must be a game changer for DD. Have you noticed any slipping with that amount of TQ? Or would that not happen unless shifting at WOT?


side note: This is a near perfect setup running on stock internals imo. I’ve been puzzled over grabbing the RR SC for a while now. Was thinking of keeping it on low boost, no other bolt ons just the blower and staying in the reliable <450bhp range.
Now I can’t justify that even with this being a rare but still possible option. Torque is perfect I rarely hit red line unless it’s to hear the engine under an overpass.
and Unless I go all out and drop same $ as a used ISF would be, I can achieve 600whp.+ (N24 + SC) and be the first to do it especially on a GS


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Old 02-13-24, 12:37 PM
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Btw I was looking at ISF FBO TUNE Dyno charts and as far as midrange looks like you’re making comparable numbers to one

ISF (JLS SYSTEM)
3000rpm ~ 250whp/400wtq
4500rpm ~ 350whp/400wtq
5500rpm ~ 430whp/400wtq

TOMS SC
3000rpm ~ 200whp/430nm?
4500rpm ~ 280whp/
5500rpm ~ 320whp/

Edit: Realized it was in NM and not ft lbs. If it is then 318wtq should be the conversion measurement. Not the biggest difference from FBO but if you say it’s noticeable then Ill take your word for it

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Old 02-24-24, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Thannp
I think it came with its own pump. Will see when it arrives. Very hard to find information about this kit online. Donno how many unit was really sold
Hi there! I recently bought a used Toyota Mark X GRX121 (3.0lit) that came with this SC installed. I was hoping to get hold of the maintenance manuals or anything of that sort like maintenance intervals and supercharger oil (is it applicable for this model)?

Will you be able to advise?
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