XeroK00L

Okay... After an exhaustive one-to-one comparison, I've finally found ONE (1) feature that the new GS has but the new IS doesn't... Automatic tilt-down and folding mirrors!!

I'm guessing that perhaps the smaller size of the IS makes this feature unnecessary?

Vladi

...just for the hell of it

robloc93

*DROOL*They better build that LF-A.....just look at the cooling fans in the duct,while the lame executives at Toyota say that there is no place for this vehicle for a company so invested in hybrids,there sure as hell is a place for this halo vehicle in the Lexus line up.Any one else agree??

Nas

Lexus needs to go ahead and make this car. This way they can join the "elite" companies. A lot of people say Lexus cannot reach prestige of MB, or other companies due to the lack "S600" or "SL55" model. The LF-A would be able to compete with the NSX, 911s, SL's, etc. Plus the car seems to have an awesome look to it.

The IS' front is growing on me. I didn't like the bumper at first, but it is growing on me slowly. I'll have to reserve my judgement on which cars I like (IS350, 330, etc - I could like both, haha) until I see them in person. I hope we can see the IS in other colors soon. I like to see it in a black color.

robloc93

I agree,while I really don't see the NSX as a supercar anymore. I do hope Toyota makes the Volta since they need a performance car and are so into hybrids.

XeroK00L

I know many fellows here are gonna give you a big .

Watch this race where NSX gives a bunch of modern supercars costing a lot more a good run for their money. Just how is NSX not a supercar?
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=129821

Just remember that a supercar is not just about raw power, but also about perfect balance, power-to-weight ratio, handling dynamics and a lot more.

CK6Speed

iTrader: (1)

While the NSX-R is not available in the US, it does show exaxtly what you said about balance. It is supposedly still rated at 290 HP (I think it has a tad over 300HP), yet it still ran a 7:56 around the Nurburgring which is also what the Corvette ZO6 ran with 405 HP. The NSX was never build for the drag strip or Autobahn type driving, but specifically for the track. Even today, while many cars can beat it around the track, it still holds its own with roughtly half the horse power in some cases. It also still beats many around the track as well. Even if you left the chassis alone and just added more HP to say 330, the NSX would be right back up there with many of todays exoctics once again. The balance on the NSX is just amazing.

Now, to the LF-A. I do agree that Lexus could use a halo exotic car, but I don't particularly think the LF-A is the right choice. I could be wrong, but it looks like front engine RWD car. People who can afford a $100K+ car want a mid engine RWD car. This is not Ferrari where you already have a the name recognition. If you want to compete with Porsche, you release the LF-A. If you want to compete with Ferrari and Lamborghini, you build a mid engine car. I also don't think the exotic car buyer will be too accepting of the 3 pipe triangular center exhausts and the large fans in the rear. I'd say at least redesign the rear end. The more you break down the LF-A the more it looks like a Porsche competitor and not mean to go up against the exotics. I just went to the Lexus site and they say this is a GT Sports car. So it does appear their target is not the exotic cars but more the Porshe and Corvettes. I think they should sell it at $80K though.

robloc93

Oh well, thats just me

LexFather

Yeah mahn, NSX is a supercar. And the NSX-R only extends this.

spwolf

p.s. for those worried about power - IS250 2.5l engine has same torque (184 vs 185) as BMW 325i (3.0 engine).
Same as GS430 having 10lbs of torque more than upcoming 330i...

:-).

LexFather

2005 Geneva Motor Show DEBUT: 2006 Lexus IS Photo Gallery
Toyota is getting serious about Lexus.

By Editors of Motor Trend
Photography by the Manufacturers & Richard Truesdell
Motor Trend, March 2005

Toyota is getting serious about Lexus. The previous IS was a rebadged Japanese-market Toyota. This all-new version has been designed from the wheels up as a Lexus, and it is planned as a deadly rival to BMW's new 3 Series. The big news for Europe is an all-new 2.2-liter I-4 diesel under the hood; diesels now account for more than 50 percent of all auto sales there. But U.S. spec IS models will all be powered by Toyota's new direct-injection gasoline V-6s. The 2.5-liter version delivers 204 horsepower (DIN), while the 3.5-liter will have about 280 horsepower. A new six-speed automatic transmission featuring sequential shift control will be standard.

The IS will also be available with the VDIM integrated vehicle dynamics management system featured on the new GS, adaptive cruise control, and Toyota's radar controlled Pre-Crash Safety system. No fewer than 10 airbags are standard. And this time, the IS moniker will be spread across a full range of vehicles, including a convertible, to truly compete with the 3 Series.
http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...xus/index.html

LexFather

http://www.lexus-europe.com/about_le...s/geneva_4.asp

rominl

iTrader: (4)

damn, lexus is really putting out their names this yr.... the new GS, and now so many people are talking about the new IS.... that's something

dunno, i really think bimmer is a bit worried now...

Gojirra99

They can still sell a lot more taxi's in Europe than lexus can hope for

Itsuki_23

If bluetooth is standard, then 7 inch touch screen has to be standard also. So the interior you see in the pics is very close to standard IS250.