2006 IS250/IS350 Allocation WEST COAST
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Originally Posted by Lexus3oi
i meant $1k over dealer invoice, not $1k over MSRP....ie. you pay no premium at all (except waiting 90 days for the car to be built/delivered)
so sounds like Lexus does not encourage "custom orders", which is fine, as long as you can find the car exactly how you want it![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
so sounds like Lexus does not encourage "custom orders", which is fine, as long as you can find the car exactly how you want it
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say the current invoice for the is350 base is 30000, and msrp for base is 36000
now let's say if you custom it fully with all options and the marp is 43000
and also let's say the msrp for the performance luxury (current highest package you can get commonly) is 40000
now, do you want to have the above pricing structure, where most people can get the performance luxury for 40k msrp (and later probably jiggle the price down to say 36k) and the one guy who wants it super fully loaded for 43k msrp, or you want the base invoice to bump from 30k to 31k, and all prices got bumped by 1k, so that the ONE guy who wants the super fully loaded is350 can pay 39k (assume invoice + 1k) for his car?
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You can special order your own options now. Lexus tried to keep the price down and they are eliminating the Levinson from the Nav. equipped ES330's as a cost cutting measure now too. The IPOD plug is standard BTW on all of the IS250's/350's. The only gripe will be the manual shift on the 250 RWD only. Here in the East a special order is closer to 4 months because it has to travel farther. They aren't making too many IS350's in our build so a special order might be necessary just to acquire one. the Sport suspension with Nav/Lev sounds good to me. PCS is probably overkill option wise. What are they asking for out West Elizabeth?
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Originally Posted by spwolf
I found it funny originally how people want fully loaded, but they dont care what exactly is included as long as it is fully loaded. I bet if Lexus offered PCS + ML in first run models, people would complain how it is really expensive at 46k, this way it would be great pricing:-).
The PCS system I personally cold care less about at this time so if I had a choice I wouldn't get it, but if it came on my car I wouldn't mind it either. The ML and navigation is a must thought. It really doesn't matter if you can afford it or not. $46K for an IS350 is too expensive and I'd go straight back to BMW at that price. Even if the BMW goes in for unexpected repairs it is no big deal. You drop your car off, leave in another BMW loaner. At least its no rental Camry that I always get when I take my Lexus cars in.
Anway, back to the point. This is one reason why I too will not be looking to buy the 1st run year of IS350s. I made that mistake already when I bought the 04 RX330 in April 2003. Nothing was available, and even if other regoins could get the options my region COULD NOT even with special order. Dealers were no help because they had no idea if/when those options would be available to my region. Then the 05 hits and everything is available for nearly the same price
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AsianGirl007, since you work for Longo Lexus, let's just say I did decide to buy the 1st year run of IS350s and wanted to special order from you even though I am out of state. Would you be willing and able to do that and ship the car to me in Hawaii and cut me a deal like any other customer walking in to the showroom? (Not saying right now when everyone will may MSRP but later in the year?) Or am I stuck with the whatever my dealer wants to push on me and the options abailable in my region only? Maybe my gripe with Lexus corporate is larger since here in Hawaii and I bet Guam we don't get any breaks, no choices, and it is a PITA to special order and even at that we sometimes can't get certain options because they say it is not available. We are not just talking about nagivagation but I couldn't even get the 18" optional rims and rear seat DVD system. Now they bring it in after I spent thousands on aftermarket rims and A/V system. Why don't they want my money in the first place? That is the problem nobody seems to answer. If it is available whether it be the ML system, or other optional equipement why don't they just make it readily available to everyone? Why all this regional crap?
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Originally Posted by rominl
umm i know what you mean, let's use some numbers here to illustrate (not real numbers)....
say the current invoice for the is350 base is 30000, and msrp for base is 36000
now let's say if you custom it fully with all options and the marp is 43000
and also let's say the msrp for the performance luxury (current highest package you can get commonly) is 40000
now, do you want to have the above pricing structure, where most people can get the performance luxury for 40k msrp (and later probably jiggle the price down to say 36k) and the one guy who wants it super fully loaded for 43k msrp, or you want the base invoice to bump from 30k to 31k, and all prices got bumped by 1k, so that the ONE guy who wants the super fully loaded is350 can pay 39k (assume invoice + 1k) for his car?
say the current invoice for the is350 base is 30000, and msrp for base is 36000
now let's say if you custom it fully with all options and the marp is 43000
and also let's say the msrp for the performance luxury (current highest package you can get commonly) is 40000
now, do you want to have the above pricing structure, where most people can get the performance luxury for 40k msrp (and later probably jiggle the price down to say 36k) and the one guy who wants it super fully loaded for 43k msrp, or you want the base invoice to bump from 30k to 31k, and all prices got bumped by 1k, so that the ONE guy who wants the super fully loaded is350 can pay 39k (assume invoice + 1k) for his car?
I'm not sure I follow you fully on this one. I think part of what Lexus3oi was tryong to say (Correct me if I'm wrong) is that BMW practically encourages you to build the car you want. Obviously you can get a better deal with a car they alrady have, but the premium price you pay to custom build your BMW is not that much over one sitting on the lot. There is very little penalty other than the longer wait. With Lexus, whether this is corporate or the individual dealers themselves the discourage you from custom ordering the car. The feeling you get is that you are making them work harder so they make you put down a larger deposite, sometimes they even try the NON REFUNDABLE angle if you want to put down a smaller deposite. Not nly that, now since it is a custom order they seem to be much more reluctant to deal and try to push MSRP or near MSRP stating the reason is because it is custom ordered. In the old days when shipping for cars with my parents they put down a $500 or $1000 deposite, look through the book of color and options, pick out what they wanted, and if the car was on the lot or the options could be added on a car in the lot it was a done deal. If not, the dealer ordered the car and called you when it was ready. No big deal. You get what you want after the deal was made. No special higher pricing because they had to call in the order. Why has Lexus changed the game so much in favor if the dealers and away from the customers?
Anyway, I don't want the MSRP to be higher. What I do want is if the options are available, for Lexus to just make it available to everyone when they wanted it. Not everyone has time to wait 3 months for a car. I bought my RX because my wife was pregnant and I didn't want her driving around in the E36 BMW we had at the time. I went in and wanted to buy a car today from someone. Fortunately my friend was my saleman otherwise I might have an Acura MDX right now. I compromised on the RX330 from what I really wanted because I wanted to give my friend the deal it the car really was more for my wife anyway. Let's just say I won't be so willing to compromise when I buy our next car for myself. Whether it be Lexus, BMW, or Mercedes. My business will go to the one that gives me what I want when I am ready to buy and makes it as easy as can be for the customer.
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Originally Posted by vwong
Please!!!
Do you want me to call you to confirm what color combo and options I want? And please put on the order form "DO NOT DRILL HOLES ON THE FRONT BUMPER FOR LICENSE PLATE."![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Do you want me to call you to confirm what color combo and options I want? And please put on the order form "DO NOT DRILL HOLES ON THE FRONT BUMPER FOR LICENSE PLATE."
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Thanks.
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Originally Posted by vwong
"DO NOT DRILL HOLES ON THE FRONT BUMPER FOR LICENSE PLATE." ![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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We are required to put the license plate in the front of the car. If you get pulled over, it's $50 every time. The dealer is not required to sell you the car with holes in it, but you are required to get the plates on it.
Anyone know how to put plates on without drilling the bumper?
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
AsianGirl007, since you work for Longo Lexus, let's just say I did decide to buy the 1st year run of IS350s and wanted to special order from you even though I am out of state.
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
Sorry Californians.
We are required to put the license plate in the front of the car. If you get pulled over, it's $50 every time. The dealer is not required to sell you the car with holes in it, but you are required to get the plates on it.
Anyone know how to put plates on without drilling the bumper?
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We are required to put the license plate in the front of the car. If you get pulled over, it's $50 every time. The dealer is not required to sell you the car with holes in it, but you are required to get the plates on it.
Anyone know how to put plates on without drilling the bumper?
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Originally Posted by AsianGirl007
I am a dealer and I can tell you that is not true.
So....which IS would you like to get?![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
So....which IS would you like to get?
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Do you have estimates on build dates?
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
Henry,
I'm not sure I follow you fully on this one. I think part of what Lexus3oi was tryong to say (Correct me if I'm wrong) is that BMW practically encourages you to build the car you want. Obviously you can get a better deal with a car they alrady have, but the premium price you pay to custom build your BMW is not that much over one sitting on the lot. There is very little penalty other than the longer wait. With Lexus, whether this is corporate or the individual dealers themselves the discourage you from custom ordering the car. The feeling you get is that you are making them work harder so they make you put down a larger deposite, sometimes they even try the NON REFUNDABLE angle if you want to put down a smaller deposite. Not nly that, now since it is a custom order they seem to be much more reluctant to deal and try to push MSRP or near MSRP stating the reason is because it is custom ordered. In the old days when shipping for cars with my parents they put down a $500 or $1000 deposite, look through the book of color and options, pick out what they wanted, and if the car was on the lot or the options could be added on a car in the lot it was a done deal. If not, the dealer ordered the car and called you when it was ready. No big deal. You get what you want after the deal was made. No special higher pricing because they had to call in the order. Why has Lexus changed the game so much in favor if the dealers and away from the customers?
Anyway, I don't want the MSRP to be higher. What I do want is if the options are available, for Lexus to just make it available to everyone when they wanted it. Not everyone has time to wait 3 months for a car. I bought my RX because my wife was pregnant and I didn't want her driving around in the E36 BMW we had at the time. I went in and wanted to buy a car today from someone. Fortunately my friend was my saleman otherwise I might have an Acura MDX right now. I compromised on the RX330 from what I really wanted because I wanted to give my friend the deal it the car really was more for my wife anyway. Let's just say I won't be so willing to compromise when I buy our next car for myself. Whether it be Lexus, BMW, or Mercedes. My business will go to the one that gives me what I want when I am ready to buy and makes it as easy as can be for the customer.
I'm not sure I follow you fully on this one. I think part of what Lexus3oi was tryong to say (Correct me if I'm wrong) is that BMW practically encourages you to build the car you want. Obviously you can get a better deal with a car they alrady have, but the premium price you pay to custom build your BMW is not that much over one sitting on the lot. There is very little penalty other than the longer wait. With Lexus, whether this is corporate or the individual dealers themselves the discourage you from custom ordering the car. The feeling you get is that you are making them work harder so they make you put down a larger deposite, sometimes they even try the NON REFUNDABLE angle if you want to put down a smaller deposite. Not nly that, now since it is a custom order they seem to be much more reluctant to deal and try to push MSRP or near MSRP stating the reason is because it is custom ordered. In the old days when shipping for cars with my parents they put down a $500 or $1000 deposite, look through the book of color and options, pick out what they wanted, and if the car was on the lot or the options could be added on a car in the lot it was a done deal. If not, the dealer ordered the car and called you when it was ready. No big deal. You get what you want after the deal was made. No special higher pricing because they had to call in the order. Why has Lexus changed the game so much in favor if the dealers and away from the customers?
Anyway, I don't want the MSRP to be higher. What I do want is if the options are available, for Lexus to just make it available to everyone when they wanted it. Not everyone has time to wait 3 months for a car. I bought my RX because my wife was pregnant and I didn't want her driving around in the E36 BMW we had at the time. I went in and wanted to buy a car today from someone. Fortunately my friend was my saleman otherwise I might have an Acura MDX right now. I compromised on the RX330 from what I really wanted because I wanted to give my friend the deal it the car really was more for my wife anyway. Let's just say I won't be so willing to compromise when I buy our next car for myself. Whether it be Lexus, BMW, or Mercedes. My business will go to the one that gives me what I want when I am ready to buy and makes it as easy as can be for the customer.
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Originally Posted by AsianGirl007
You need to read my sig a little more closely...... ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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Sorry, wrong dealer
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Originally Posted by AsianGirl007
Yes it is a law, but new cars get a temporary registration sticker in front window so there is no plate until you get your license plates. After you get your plates in the mail it is YOUR responsibility to attatch it somehow.
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