From what I see, it seems you can only get bluetooth with nav?

This sucks cuz I wanted bluetooth... come on lexus! u made everything else standred why not this!!

 

You couldn't use BT without the Nav screen. There would be no way to setup, enter numbers, address book, etc.

People just don't get it. You're getting SO MUCH MORE than just maps with the Navigation package. You're get Nav, Bluetooth, PLUS all the voice commands. You can control the radio, cd, A/C, phone, nav via voice commands. I had a chance to play with it today, and it's awesome! A no-brainer.

 

Wait, this is news to me....with navigation you can control music, A/C via voice commands? I thought blue tooth was only for the phone.....what are some of the commands?

 

I agree that $2550 might be worth it for navi for what you get, but thats something I cannot afford.

I wish they made bluetooth standred like on the BMW, where u can use voice commands only for the phone, if u wanted to control radio, or otherthings u need navi.

 

BT is only for the phone. But it's all part of the Nav package. With the nav package you get the 7" screen, backup camera, and voice command. You press the voive button on the steering wheel, and the system prompt you for a command. For example (although I can't remember exactly the phrase), you say "CD player", then it responds something like "Next command", you say "Play" or "Next Track" or "Next Disc". I didn't get a chance to try a lot of the functions, but I looked at the help screen that lists about 100 commands. But in addition to the 100 commands, it can parse spoken phrases like addresses, names, numbers, etc. It is VERY good, and again, I'm completely baffled why Lexus isn't promoting this functionality. They just say "voice activated navigation". It's way more than that!

 

Ummmm, wrong. BMW's BT has everything (phonebook etc...) right along their 1 line display on the dash. You press the radio station buttons as to whom you want to call or just say the name.

Their is no reason why BT can't be at least had as a standalone option for $250 or so. Lexus should have included it as standard but they force you to spend $2550 just to get a very important "option" that is standard on most of the vehicles in this price range and even in lower price ranges.

 

To quote Flipside..."want some cheese with that whine".

 

You can always get a BT car kit for about $50. May not be aesthetic but it is functional and cheap...

 

Thanks timbols.....it made me reconsider getting navigation.....I was thinking I would hardly use navigation so it wouldnt be worth it.....then the past two night I have gotten lost. Maybe it is a sign. Either way thanks for explaining it to me.

 

I love people like you. You homers (aka Lexus Lovers) are never objective about anything. There are so many flaws with the options packing it is truly unbelieveable, but people like you pretend like there is nothing wrong. Why can't you get BT as a standalone option? Why can't you get HID's as a standalong option? Why? You call it complaining, while I call it squeezing every dime from buyers. BT comes standard on practically every vehicle it is competing with and even with those that it doesn't come standard it certainly isn't a $2550 option! Lexus would love to make people believe that you need the nav screen for BT but that isn't the truth at all.

 

Look, I love this car. I am going to buy one hopefully within the next month. However, I certainly have no loyalty towards Lexus and I will call it as I see it...regardless. I'm not interested in arguements and I apologize for the tone, but I just like how people can call anything whining, when what we are talking about is something that should be a no brainer for this class of car- especially in a brand of car that wants to be known for their "luxury" interior amenities.

 

It's whining when people nitpick and complain about what is and what is not available. If the New IS fits your needs great, if another make fits your needs...that's your choice. There are several great choices in this competative market, but if you have more gripes and peeves about certain things about this car, perhaps it isn't for you afterall? That's what makes this emerging entry-level luxury car market so great...there are so many great choices for everyone out there.

 

But I don't believe I am nitpicking. IMO, nitpicking would be complaining about interior hiproom or headroom. Nitpicking is about the real little things that either come with the car or don't. However, when we are talking about a very common and one of the most sought after OPTIONS how can you nitpick about something when everyone in the world will agree that it should be standard or at the very least a standalone option. It is like having airbags as an option that is packaged with other unrelated material and price it thousands higher than it should be.

 

From my understanding, the IS250 RWD for you is a 6spd Manual IS250 RWD under MSRP in the next month or two. Yeah I agree that certain options should not be tied in as packages. That's too bad you can't get bluetooth with the New IS on Non-Nav models, but I see this as a cost cutting measure. For one if a base non-nav IS had a screen, that Starting at low $30s MSRP will be at the mid $30k range. Perhaps Lexus will change this as times go on...but that's something we can only hope for. But since demand is high and packages/options set for each allocation of cars to each region, you're not going to have the flexibility you want with pricing or get the exact car w/options and color you want without waiting. It's a given that demand eclipses supply right now. Patience is a virtue and as time goes on, the demand will obviously drop, supply will increase and you will probably see changes in option packages as the market will dictate each region's allocation of cars.

 

Since when do you need a screen for BT? The BMW has no screen in their non-nav BT cars.

The point is that BT is not expensive. At most it would add $500 and probably closer to $300. The point is also that they don't allow a standalone option for BT. Why? Explain that one to me please. You continue to defend it but yet you won't acknowledge that Lexus should have allowed at the very least a standalone BT option and that wouldn't increase base MSRP. Right?