IS 350 Wood Scratches
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Pics are tough, but here is 1st try
It is tough getting good shots...too far away and my cam doesn't pic up..too close and it wont focus...the scratches are very eye visible...I am going to try in a dark garage tomorrow..I was getting a ton of reflections from sun and flashes...Sorry these are so blurry and poor
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Originally Posted by jlin101
I don't know of any car wood trims that don't scratch easily. Unlike most home wood furniture with staining, automotive wood trims have clear urethane coating that gives it the reflective shine; it is that clear coat that gets scratched. Metallic-looking plastic trim (fake aluminum) also has the same problem (check Infiniti G35 forum and you will see the same complaints). That's why I never lay anything on the center console.
That's why Infiniti switched the interior trim to real aluminum in 2005 on the G35. Plus, kinda silly to sell fake aluminum trim in a $30K plus car.
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Originally Posted by cmusic
Here's the door picture with the interior panel removed. The 6.5" woofer in the lower door has been removed.
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Originally Posted by 4DOORFUN
That's why Infiniti switched the interior trim to real aluminum in 2005 on the G35. Plus, kinda silly to sell fake aluminum trim in a $30K plus car.
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Originally Posted by Bichon
Can you post a picture of the woofer? Curious about the quality/construction and manufacturer of the drivers they use.
This is the 2.5" mid. It is a polypropolyne cone. Frequency range is about 500-800 Hz and up.
The woofer is a polypropolyne cone with a rubber surround (good for protecting againt moisture). The whole black speaker assembly is molded to the speaker.
The rear of the woofer shows a standard magnat assembly. Notice "4 ohms" and "China" stamped on the magnet.
The speakers are slightly better than the standard speakers from other manufactures I have seen, but there is nothing notable about them. I can get simular Pioneer speakers from an audio distributor for under $20 ea for the woofer and under $10 ea for the mid. The speakers I am looking at to replace them are hand built in Denmark and will be in the $650 a pair range.
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Originally Posted by cmusic
First, no more pictures after this post from me with the door panels removed. I broke two retainer clips getting the panel back on. They are relatively cheap and can be replaced but I can't just go out and rip my car apart when someone wants to see what's behind the panels. The next time I take the panels off will be when I replace the speakers in the spring.
I thought you took the door apart to replace the speakers, and assumed that the woofer was already out of the car. I certainly didn't intend for you to disassemble the car for the sake of my curiousity. So thanks!
Whose Danish drivers are you planning to use? Peerless/Vifa/ScanSpeak?
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Originally Posted by Bichon
I'm sorry, you've made me feel very guilty.
I thought you took the door apart to replace the speakers, and assumed that the woofer was already out of the car. I certainly didn't intend for you to disassemble the car for the sake of my curiousity. So thanks!
Whose Danish drivers are you planning to use? Peerless/Vifa/ScanSpeak?
I thought you took the door apart to replace the speakers, and assumed that the woofer was already out of the car. I certainly didn't intend for you to disassemble the car for the sake of my curiousity. So thanks!
Whose Danish drivers are you planning to use? Peerless/Vifa/ScanSpeak?
I like Scan-Speak Revelators. That’s what I used in my last car. I have also used Dynaudio speakers in the past and liked them. I am also thinking about using a new speaker from a company called Audio Technology. A man named Skaaning in Demark designs them. Mr. Skaaning was the founder of Scan-Speak in 1969 and Dynaudio in 1976. The Audio Technology 6.5” speakers I am considering costs $330 each. I am considering using Hiquphon tweeters, which are also made in Demark. I guess you can tell I am a very particular when it comes to my audio.
Do a search on this forum for a thread I started called “IS audio system overview”. I talk about the IS’ standard audio system and give some upgrade recommendations.
Originally Posted by jlin101
sorry to hear that, cmusic. Are these the stock speakers or ML, if ML speakers are any different?
Last edited by cmusic; 12-30-05 at 05:48 AM.
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I'm also a big fan of Scan-Speak. I use ProAc loudspeakers (built in England) in my home audio system. ProAc's designer, Stuart Tyler, uses Scan-Speak drivers in many of his designs. I'm not sure whether it is the quality of the drivers or Tyler's expertise in voicing them, but I love the way they sound.
I used to be into aftermarket car audio about 15 years ago, but after two separate break-ins where I lost lots of gear (not to mention damage to the car), I had decided to stick with factory systems in the car, and do my serious listening at home. Now I'm thinking that as long as I can retain a 100% stock appearance, I may tinker with replacing some of the drivers in my IS this summer. I'll be interested in reading about your experiences.
I used to be into aftermarket car audio about 15 years ago, but after two separate break-ins where I lost lots of gear (not to mention damage to the car), I had decided to stick with factory systems in the car, and do my serious listening at home. Now I'm thinking that as long as I can retain a 100% stock appearance, I may tinker with replacing some of the drivers in my IS this summer. I'll be interested in reading about your experiences.
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Originally Posted by Bichon
I'm also a big fan of Scan-Speak. I use ProAc loudspeakers (built in England) in my home audio system. ProAc's designer, Stuart Tyler, uses Scan-Speak drivers in many of his designs. I'm not sure whether it is the quality of the drivers or Tyler's expertise in voicing them, but I love the way they sound.
I used to be into aftermarket car audio about 15 years ago, but after two separate break-ins where I lost lots of gear (not to mention damage to the car), I had decided to stick with factory systems in the car, and do my serious listening at home. Now I'm thinking that as long as I can retain a 100% stock appearance, I may tinker with replacing some of the drivers in my IS this summer. I'll be interested in reading about your experiences.
I used to be into aftermarket car audio about 15 years ago, but after two separate break-ins where I lost lots of gear (not to mention damage to the car), I had decided to stick with factory systems in the car, and do my serious listening at home. Now I'm thinking that as long as I can retain a 100% stock appearance, I may tinker with replacing some of the drivers in my IS this summer. I'll be interested in reading about your experiences.
(Taking into consideration, that our stock drivers, aren't "total crap" of course...
#75
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Originally Posted by Tony1
Can just changing the speakers alone, really make a distinct difference?
(Taking into consideration, that our stock drivers, aren't "total crap" of course...
(Taking into consideration, that our stock drivers, aren't "total crap" of course...
For most people, they really don't pay attention to the sound quality when listening. They pay attention to what is said, sung, or played. A regular person may never catch that the third violin plays slightly out of step with the rest of the orchestra, they pay attention to the whole performance. They might not notice that Howard Stern sounds like he has a slight cold when listening in the car as compared to the radio on the kitchen table.
Musicians, recording engineers, and audiophiles listen to how each note, word, or verse sounds as compared to a live performance. They analyse the sound as they enjoy it, not just listen to it.
If you like the sound quality you are hearing then you are fine. But if you are like me I have learned to hear into and beyond what a normal person hears. Different speakers change the sound, some for the better, some for the worse. For myself the factory IS speakers are good for most people, but not good enough for me.