Power plug in center console - poor design?
#16
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Originally Posted by kensteele
I'm wondering how this will work out for them in the future, with only a few pros, I can see lots of cons to a built-in hardrive.
Originally Posted by TimboIS
My point being, why would I want a single usage item like the hard drive, when I can have an iPod. I can use it in and out of the vehicle. I'm sure full integration will come at some point.
It's like the difference between ordering the factory navi system or buying a Tom Tom portable navi. One is always there when you need it, the other one has to be hooked and unhooked, hidden from theives, etc.
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Originally Posted by deuce2
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#18
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Oh, I dunno, just off the top of my head I'm thinking....since I haven't really read up on it much:
1.Maintenance, what happens when they fail; serviceability; lose of music.
2.Cost, putting a harddrive in every car when only 10-50% of them will be actually used.
3.All those iPod owners, will they use the harddrive, too?
4.Synching/moving files issues; how do you reformat, drm issues.
5.Shock, durability, does it skip?
6.How large, how small, upgrade options?
7.Is it portable?
8.How long does it take to scan, seek, scroll, what about the menus?
9.Technology changes (files, compression, etc)
10.iTunes
Not everything applies, just thinking out loud. I know I wouldn't want one. Wouldn't want to be stuck with it for 5 years.
1.Maintenance, what happens when they fail; serviceability; lose of music.
2.Cost, putting a harddrive in every car when only 10-50% of them will be actually used.
3.All those iPod owners, will they use the harddrive, too?
4.Synching/moving files issues; how do you reformat, drm issues.
5.Shock, durability, does it skip?
6.How large, how small, upgrade options?
7.Is it portable?
8.How long does it take to scan, seek, scroll, what about the menus?
9.Technology changes (files, compression, etc)
10.iTunes
Not everything applies, just thinking out loud. I know I wouldn't want one. Wouldn't want to be stuck with it for 5 years.
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Originally Posted by kensteele
Oh, I dunno, just off the top of my head I'm thinking....since I haven't really read up on it much:
1.Maintenance, what happens when they fail; serviceability; lose of music.
2.Cost, putting a harddrive in every car when only 10-50% of them will be actually used.
3.All those iPod owners, will they use the harddrive, too?
4.Synching/moving files issues; how do you reformat, drm issues.
5.Shock, durability, does it skip?
6.How large, how small, upgrade options?
7.Is it portable?
8.How long does it take to scan, seek, scroll, what about the menus?
9.Technology changes (files, compression, etc)
10.iTunes
Not everything applies, just thinking out loud. I know I wouldn't want one. Wouldn't want to be stuck with it for 5 years.
1.Maintenance, what happens when they fail; serviceability; lose of music.
2.Cost, putting a harddrive in every car when only 10-50% of them will be actually used.
3.All those iPod owners, will they use the harddrive, too?
4.Synching/moving files issues; how do you reformat, drm issues.
5.Shock, durability, does it skip?
6.How large, how small, upgrade options?
7.Is it portable?
8.How long does it take to scan, seek, scroll, what about the menus?
9.Technology changes (files, compression, etc)
10.iTunes
Not everything applies, just thinking out loud. I know I wouldn't want one. Wouldn't want to be stuck with it for 5 years.
Well, just like a cd changer back in the days. Pop it in, pop it out. Load cd's, etc, etc. I'm sure they could integrate a hard drive w/ all the anti shock bells and whistles, as far as cost, then it should be a package option. As far as upgrades, then maybe Lexus could offer different hard drive configurations (40gb / 60gb / 100gb, etc). Then about if it's serviceable, It's just like any other mp3 players, could have a warranty for certain amt of years. Just like any other gadgets/toys, technology changes every now and then but having a hard drive I think is a Plus.
Just a thought...
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Originally Posted by Bichon
Can you elaborate? I see few if any cons to having the hard drive based system.
It's a pain in the butt to hook and unhook the iPod every time I get in the car. Plus, often I'll forget to bring it.
It's like the difference between ordering the factory navi system or buying a Tom Tom portable navi. One is always there when you need it, the other one has to be hooked and unhooked, hidden from theives, etc.
It's a pain in the butt to hook and unhook the iPod every time I get in the car. Plus, often I'll forget to bring it.
It's like the difference between ordering the factory navi system or buying a Tom Tom portable navi. One is always there when you need it, the other one has to be hooked and unhooked, hidden from theives, etc.
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Originally Posted by lexnan
Well, just like a cd changer back in the days. Pop it in, pop it out. Load cd's, etc, etc. I'm sure they could integrate a hard drive w/ all the anti shock bells and whistles, as far as cost, then it should be a package option. As far as upgrades, then maybe Lexus could offer different hard drive configurations (40gb / 60gb / 100gb, etc). Then about if it's serviceable, It's just like any other mp3 players, could have a warranty for certain amt of years. Just like any other gadgets/toys, technology changes every now and then but having a hard drive I think is a Plus.
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I'm assuming at some point in the near future and what i'm scared about is full ipod integration that charges and displays your ipod screen in the NAV will come out in next years model and we can't upgrade our 06's to do that. If that ever happened I'd never forgive myself for not waiting for the ability
#23
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Originally Posted by phish2112
I'm assuming at some point in the near future and what i'm scared about is full ipod integration that charges and displays your ipod screen in the NAV will come out in next years model and we can't upgrade our 06's to do that. If that ever happened I'd never forgive myself for not waiting for the ability
#24
Back to our regularly scheduled thread topic....yeah the design is a pain. I have my radar detector plugged into the ash tray outlet, so when I have to plug my Blackberry in, I can't close the console. I haven't found a 90 deg. charger yet that would allow me to close it.
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Originally Posted by TimboIS
Wow! You must must like the oldies. I'm always updating my iPod with new songs. AND I'm sure it's a lot easier to take in and out than your hard drive design ("hooked", "hidden from thieves").
Lexus sponsors Paul McCartney, not Three 6 Mafia and IMHO other than the odd new U2 album there isn't much new music worth listening to. Load your hard drive up with the Beatles, Stones, Pink Floyd, Led Zep, Iron Butterfly, etc. and you are set!
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Originally Posted by lexnan
Well, just like a cd changer back in the days. Pop it in, pop it out. Load cd's, etc, etc. I'm sure they could integrate a hard drive w/ all the anti shock bells and whistles, as far as cost, then it should be a package option. As far as upgrades, then maybe Lexus could offer different hard drive configurations (40gb / 60gb / 100gb, etc). Then about if it's serviceable, It's just like any other mp3 players, could have a warranty for certain amt of years. Just like any other gadgets/toys, technology changes every now and then but having a hard drive I think is a Plus.
The other way to do the updating is to have WiFi in the car. That way you could turn it on and connect to it from your PC and it would be visible on your PC as an additional hard drive. You dump your music and then shut off the Wifi - just like you transfer your phone book over Bluetooth.
Come to think of it - if you have the Wifi connectivity there is no reason not to put a web browser in as well. Some cities now have WiFi throughout the city. You could also browse your email and/or web pages while in the car - shut off while you drive of course.
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Originally Posted by johnnay
Only problem is that I get a buzzing sound when the car revs - I'll have to filter it somehow, I suppose.
Isn't that why you put the Aux In and power adapter in the console?
Could they not have built a ground loop isolator into the Aux input?
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Originally Posted by wayner
Then your iPod isn't big enough - I have a 60GB iPod and I have nhundreds of CDs and I still have my iPod only 60% full. As far as new music - how many Lexus dealers want to add new music to their iPod???
Lexus sponsors Paul McCartney, not Three 6 Mafia and IMHO other than the odd new U2 album there isn't much new music worth listening to. Load your hard drive up with the Ratles, Stones, ink Floyd, Led Zep, Iron Butterfly, etc. and you are set!
Lexus sponsors Paul McCartney, not Three 6 Mafia and IMHO other than the odd new U2 album there isn't much new music worth listening to. Load your hard drive up with the Ratles, Stones, ink Floyd, Led Zep, Iron Butterfly, etc. and you are set!
Originally Posted by wayner
Could they not have built a ground loop isolator into the Aux input?
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wayner, thanks for participating on the board late[ly] but you're very welcome, i think we'll enjoy hearing your thoughts and comments, just the wifi one above; it's nice to dream from time to time. lexus supposedly already has a fix in place for the buzzing.
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Originally Posted by TimboIS
I have no clue what you're talking about?!? What does the dealer have to do with anything? New albums are released every tuesday, I buy it, I put it on my iPod. The idea of having to remove some locked away hard drive every week to put my new tracks onto is crazy. Are you saying I have to take it to the dealer to mave new track "installed"? That's even more absurd.