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I'm beginning to suspect a bit of false advertising re: bi-xenons

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Old 06-05-06, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jlin101
you've misunderstood the definition of bi-xenon. Check these:
http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/_glossary/bi_xenon.htm
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/031217.htm
http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...s041201_hella/

Do a liitle research before accusing Lexus of false advertising.
I know what bi-xenons are...how about you read the full thread?

There's also a difference between accusing and suspecting.
Old 06-05-06, 03:17 PM
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I also had the same question too. Lexus claims Bi-Xenon's, but we didn't get them.

They need to update their website. They also need to note that we in the U.S. does not get automatic folding mirrors.

Maybe in Japan, they have Bi-Xenon's?
Old 06-05-06, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by conekiller
I know what bi-xenons are...how about you read the full thread?

There's also a difference between accusing and suspecting.
I suspect that you got duped--mine has bi-xenon, as advertised. You'd better check to see if Lexus left out Adaptive Front Lighting on your car, too.

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Old 06-05-06, 03:34 PM
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i have lux and i just flashed my hi beams... the low beam hids go on as well as the inner high beams. i tried it with the head lights already on and i do notice something in the hids flipping up and the fog lights go out.
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Originally Posted by jlin101
I suspect that you got duped--mine has bi-xenon, as advertised. You'd better check to see if Lexus left out Adaptive Front Lighting on your car, too.
I've definitely got the AFS.
Old 06-05-06, 04:08 PM
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Okay, I just checked my sticker. It is an exact duplicate of yours Conekiller. Picked up my car 2/24/06.

My copy of the brochure from the dealer in Oct 05 says "Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS) and High-Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps with dynamic auto leveling."

My Price/Options List from Lexus.com dated 11/15/05 says "Bi-xenon High-Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps and Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS).

So, I don't know what I have either. I'll go try and test the lights on the garage wall.
Old 06-05-06, 04:16 PM
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So we need understand where you are coming from do you feel more like a) you've been cheated or b) Lexus might be misleading customers or c) You're just trying to figure out what you really ended up with or d) you think there might have been some sort of mistake and you got one thing when you really should have rec'd something else.
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Originally Posted by Slowk20a2
to check if you have bi-xenon or not, park your car in front of your garage door or a wall. You will see a pretty well defined cut off line for the light. Now turn on your high beam, if that cut off line is gone and there's light all the way high up, that means you got bi-xenon.
YUP, that's what I see. Must be Bi-xenon. I'm happy now
Old 06-05-06, 04:23 PM
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Well when I turn my brights on a few things happens

1) The low beam (HID's) DOES change
2) The halogen highbeams turn on
3) The fogs turn off

AFIK this IS how bi-xenon works.
Old 06-05-06, 04:35 PM
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i was also wondering the same

any ideas if the canadian IS's are the same?
the inside lights turning on because if you are flashing somebody makes sense because HID"s dont' instantly come on.

fog lights turn off because you cannot have more than 4 lights on at a time by law.

will check if it is really bi xenon, but either way, not much we can do if it is or isn't . .

to be honest, how often do we use high beams anyway
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OK here's what I found -

I used heavy black nylon fabric and completely blocked out the halogen high beams with the car approximately 20' from a wall, then turned on the highbeams. Surprise! There *IS* a high beam function built into the low beam HIDs, however it is not uniform. You're all familiar with the flat, razor-sharp cutoff plane low beam HIDs exhibit against a wall...I was expecting the shade mechanism to raise the whole cutoff plane, left all the way to the right, and it does not. Instead the flat cutoff turns into an arc...the extreme left and right ends at the normal low beam height, bulging upward in the middle where the high beam halogens are normally visible. Because of this, if you try the same scenario with the high beam halogens unobstructed, the halogens will completely obliterate the high beam HID cutoff that you'll see if the halogens are obstructed/unplugged. You simply cannot see the bi-xenon function with the halogen high beams in the way.

ALL THAT SAID, I'm still confused as to why Lexus specifically uses the name "Bi-xenon High-Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps" all over their website but has nary a mention of it anywhere on the window sticker feature list or anywhere (that I can find) in all the literature that came with the car.
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Maybe that is the question you should be asking the Lexus people you've been calling. I'd be interested in hearing their answer.
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When I start my car with the lights on, I see the HID going up on the wall. Is this due to the HID refractor going from a semi close position to normal?
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Originally Posted by phatboyc
When I start my car with the lights on, I see the HID going up on the wall. Is this due to the HID refractor going from a semi close position to normal?
All HIDs go through a self-test and warm up in the first few seconds of operation.
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i thought that was from the auto-leveling head lamps?


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