OPTiK

I didn't realize that the 9500ix detected I/O, but according to this: http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-det...rld-tests.html it does not detect it better than the v1. The farther out you go the more unreliable at detecting I/O it is, unlike the v1 which is solid not matter what distance. Even if you ignore the 3.872 (Guard Off) the only thing that the 9500ix does better with is 35.5.

MBTC

Well the V1, for all practical purposes, is a more sensitive detector, so it is not inaccurate to say that it would detect I/O "better" than the 9500ix. In the Escort product line, you would need to compare the antenna in the V1 to that in the Redline. The Redline is more for folks who want maximum senstivity. As far as that particular video you posted goes, I really think the V1 is interfering with the Redline, or there is some other environmental condition that is causing the V1 to alert soon before the Redline. All we know for sure, is that video is in no way a scientific test -- does the tester have the Redline running in max senstivity mode? We don't know. It could be a V1 employee that put duct tape over part of the Redline antenna (lol). But the fact that both detectors are mounted on the windshield tells me it is not a test to be trusted.

So for purposes of this conversation that in terms of sensitivity only, Redline and V1 are known to be the most sensitive you can get. Maybe one of them does certain bands better than the other? I don't know.. I do not own a Redline or V1 so I don't even know what the setting options are, but I can tell you the way the 9500ix performs can be dramatically impacted based on which options you have enabled or disabled through the software. You can increase response time on the 9500ix by turning off POP and TSR for example.

Back to the 9500ix... clearly the antenna is not as sensitive as the Redline and V1, but antenna sensitivity is not the most important factor. Under same LEO conditions, the difference in alert response time between the 9500ix could only matter if you are going maybe 150mph, and even then you still might have ample time to slow down before being clocked.

So, once we understand that the 9500ix, while not quite as sensitive, is still more than sensitive enough to save us from all tickets that we can be saved from (there could still obviously be laser or I/O situations where nothing will help), it is worth talking about what this one does that the others don't.

Falses. For example, I live in one of the cities that has a lot of TSR guns on my daily commute to work. If I don't turn on TSR detection, the chirps would drive me nuts. Also, because the GPS lockout feature eliminates all of the automatic door openers and other falses over time, it becomes a pleasure to simply leave this radar detector on and running at all times, where it is always protecting me. If I had a Redline or V1, I would be subject to constant falses, which would just make me want to turn the volume down or the unit off entirely in city driving, which would make me more susceptible to getting speeding tickets.

So, at least with my driving style (mix of highway and city), and the fact that I don't want constant false chirps, and the fact that I never go 150mph or even 100mph really, the 9500ix actually protects me far better than either a Redline or V1 would... because I leave it on all the time and I know when it alerts, that it is indeed a valid encounter. I also enjoy being alerted to redlight cameras and speed traps.

gompka

iTrader: (6)

Who even uses radar detectors anymore? My escort solo s2 is pretty much useless anywhere in and around Illinois as most are using laser and the s2 won't even chirp on a direct laser hit, even if it did it would be too late. Jammers are the only thing that may be worth investing into.

cdtran2

Blinder m27

I also just got an escort sr7, but it's not installed yet. Troopers in washington use laser, so the blinder has paid for itself several times unfortunately, some departments don't have enough money to switch from radar to laser (snohomish sheriff) so thats why I got the escort sr7 too, which is a "custom" and makes it less likely to be stolen when left in the car (I had my v1 stolen from my old car)

OPTiK

I agree with this. I had a m47 setup on my old car and did some testing with it and it worked pretty well. I have it boxed up now since I don't have it in me to cut my grill up.. but there is a new product on the horizon that hooks up fiber optic threads to jammer heads so you dont need the heads to be visible anymore. Waiting for that to come out before setting up my jammers again.

intellis

good thread

cdtran2

That sounds promising I cut out part of my lower grill to get the heads in there, but I have an oem replacement ready for when I take the heads out

yokozuna

In Virginia the state police have a radar detector detector and fine you heavily for using a detector, other than not turning it on any suggestions ?

OPTiK

There are detector that dont leak, which can't be detected by RDD's (9500ci comes to mind). I'd do some research on which ones implement that stealth technology. VA is the worst, 20 over and you get wreckless driving charges right?

MBTC

In the Carolinas, mine saves my **** on a weekly basis. Not sure about Illinois. Much more in depth solutions are being discussed at the escort radar forums, you could find out what folks are running in your area.

intellis

Yeah the Carolinas are rough with speeding tickets. I am going to read this entire thread to decide which radar is the best. I will be spending around $500.

MBTC

Although there might be some good info in these threads, I would recommend you bookmark these forums:

http://escortradarforum.com/forums/

and also hunt down the Valentine 1 forums, and use a combination of both as a basis as your research. As valuable as this thread might be in some ways, you can get much better info regarding specific models there. Basically if I already owned a V1, I wouldn't change a thing, but buying new today I would (and did) go with the 9500ix.

Also note that Escort has a neat looking new product HERE that combines a nav system with the same radar detector engine in the 9500ix.

I personally am waiting to hear how good the routing algorithms are compared to Garmin units (which are top notch). They use the same maps but routing logic can be a differentiating factor. In some ways I like a consolidated unit, but in other ways I like them separate.

I will speak from experience that you simply will not regret the 9500ix if that's the one you chose. Also the blue display looks really nice with the gauge colors as opposed to a detector with red lights. Other cars will not know you have a detector and will not piggyback off you as a result.

intellis

@ MBTC
Thanks for the info I will take all of that into consideration.

MBTC

Interesting video here I just now saw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y621lEIdDcM

To quote the driver and give him credit, he said:

"Escort 9500ci helps me pick out a real K band alert from a bunch of construction drones while the V1 is rendered useless until I'm nearly on top of the LEO. The first construction drone is at 0:30 exiting the freeway and the second is at 0:41 already exiting the freeway. I've run into these drones before and the spec on them is usually hovering around 24.240."

http://escortradarforum.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=2414

Duke02

iTrader: (2)

Does anybody have the 9500ci installed with pics? I have a V1 but may spend much more of my time driving for work and wanted to get some laser shifters.

I know there's some evidence that the V1 detects radar better than the 9500ci so i may wind up sticking with it but I jet wanted to see how the latter looks when installed since that's another consideration.

Thanks