I don't like the location of the 12v power plug either. I'm lucky enough that my car adapter can swivel to 90 degrees so I can still close the lid.

 

Where is your satisfaction percentage going to be when someone who has hacked the system, watching a DVD while driving or better yet inputting a destination while driving and talking on a cell phone (that the charger doesnt fit completely in console) inflicts about 10K or more worth of damage to the rearend of your IS?
I really dont understand all the complaints about not being able to INTENNTIONALLY take your focus off the road while driving and playing with the NAV system. Why not be mad that Lexus didnt make an optional swivel driver seat so you could turn 180' and watch where you have been?

 

100%. Because the idiot who hit me is liable.

You don't do what I do for a living. Changing destination on the fly is a must have for me. If I can't manage my attention between email, cell phone, and nav system, that's my problem or worst case, my insurance company's problem.

I already sent my complaint to Lexus. I won't buy another crippled nav system, and they're aware of it.

 

100% for me too.

i either put in my destination before i leave or else my passenger does it. so as lobuxracer stated, it's their liability. and as for doing things on the fly, i can wait for a stop light or multitask as needed... people will do what they want regardless of the law and if they screw up that's their problem and if i happen to do something then i'll worry about it then.

so back to the topic, i was wondering why they did that too... if i went the cheap way w/my ipod rather than getting the SLI, i wasn't sure how to wire it and keep it closed. oh well, i solved my problem with $300. as mentioned in previous posts, there are ways around it with 90 degree chargers, etc.

 

If I have to pull off of a busy highway to input a new destination, and it causes an accident(or i get hit by a BMW who is inputting an address, and not paying attention,LOL), was that the intended result from Lexus? (ya I know thats a stretch, but not impossible )
But in the truest sense of the term "Design Flaw" your right, this probably isn't one, but doesn;t mean it doesn't bother me more then the lighter outlet.

 

Nobody here believes that. Why would you drive this particular car if it's a must? Truck drivers MUST have 18-wheels and a trailer to do their job, you don't see them hauling around in Ford Escort. Yet you drive a car that you chose that doesn't give you everything you need to properly do your job? Maybe you can set your destination when you first take off and then pull out maps for the duration like your job required before GPS came along LOL.

If it's a must, sell your car and go get something that supports your must have (which apparently any other GPS nav-equipped car other than Lexus). If you continue to drive the Lexus and it's doesn't cause you any financial loss, the feature turns into nothing more than a major inconvenience for you.

 

Pulling off the highway cannot cause an accident. You can pull of the highway for dozens of reasons, to talk on your cellphone, to look at your paper map, to go to the trunk to get something, to close your hood, to inspect a rear tire, to input a new address, to yield to an emergency vehicle, to arrive at your destination.....

Anyone who says pulling off the highway is dangerous or may cause an accident is simply saying that in order to justify their own weak argument; not directing this specifically to you but I've heard this excuse before:

The exuse is I'm driving down the freeway WITH traffic and if I have to exit the freeway and pull over, that is a dangerous act and forcing me to do that is dangerous....instead you should let me continue to drive with traffic so I won't have to stop and endanger everyone else.

 

What?! No swivel seats?! I should have ordered a different car.

 

I'm glad the destination is locked out while driving. If I can't take a minute to do it before I start driving, or at a stoplight, then I have bigger issues than Lexus can help me with.

The passenger excuse is similarly weak. I've never had a passenger refuse to ride in my car because they can't watch DVDs or change the nav destination. As a matter of fact, I don't really want anyone screwing with the car except me.

 

Well, not to take part in the hijacking of my own thread, I certainly agree with you that the nav lockout was intended, as proved by the fact that the “loophole” seems to be plugged for the 2007 models, unless one breaks out the wire cutters. But what I have a problem with is the assumption that BMW thinks their owners are smart enough to handle a navigation system that allows manual inputs while moving while Lexus thinks its drivers are less skilled.

Perhaps BMW just doesn’t give a crap. Maybe they’re willing to take some lost lawsuit hits and just add it to the price of their cars, thinking they’ll make it up by selling a few more cars because of this feature. And maybe that’s why BMW’s cost more compared to similarly sized Lexus’. Now of course we cannot be sure that this is their policy, but if true, we’re still back to the possibility that the Lexus nav hack comes at the price of safety.

 

Please do not speak for everyone else.

My cell phone for me is a must, you can debate that all you want. People get used to new technology and become dependant on it. If it wasn't for gps I probably would have learned to read a map by now. Technology makes life easier. The lockout infringes on my passanger's right to choose.

 

And nobody believes that either. In spite of the fact that both you and your passenger can input destinations while moving via voice commands, you’re not satisfied, because the real reason lies somewhere else.

 

Uhg........

If you dont like the gps lockout buy an 06 IS350 and hack it. If a passenger is too picky they can get the heck out of my car. If you pull off the highway you are doing others a FAVOR by not driving and NOT paying attention to what you do. I must have a cell for my job ALL the time BUT the bluetooth option is a lifesaver. I already know all my important numbers so if I must do a oice by number its NO big deal. I LIKE the locout it is SAFER.

Also I do not thin k the 12 volt plug is THAT big a deal...drop the other stuff it has been BEAT TO DEATH too many times to count.

Did I say the 12v plug is no real big deal?

 

 

i would never pay for and park a car in my garage that infringed on my rights. i'm not in love with cars that much to do such a crazy thing. i'll go buy some other car, something else that loves me back instead of infringing on me and my rights.

do we have anyone else here besides markyboy who is silly enough to lay out thousands of dollars on something that infringes on theirs rights? not me. and by the way, i don't speak for you. obviously.