dmz

You don't need facts to know how business work on a capitalist market, it's common sense. Companies are here to make money. If people wants a product you produce more of them. Do you really think it makes sense for a company to push a cheaper product if they could sell a more expensive one? I am guessing you never took an economics class in school?

kensteele

just like i thought, no facts.

benhunt

I work at a new dealership in the Phoenix Area, we get a pretty good mix of 250's and350's. Tommorow I'll check the build sheet to tell you the exact % of them for our region. It show's equipment, and colors broken down into %'s. I know that different regions get different vehicles because we get literally no AWD 250's and I have only seen 2 man. Transmissions in the valley.

kensteele

sounds good. i'm willing to believe that people want the 250 in most parts of the country because it's awd, not because they can't tell the difference between it and the 350 so it's not worth the price...as was suggested.

sounds like you might be selling a lot of 350s, i am curious would look forward to seeing what your mix is learning some of the facts.

FrankyJ

i think it all depends on ur location... in NY ive seen only two 350s and like 20 250s BUT AWD. I guess most people would rather go with the AWD in heavy snow winter areas, but in Dominican Republic, I saw a few new IS's all 350s... because no need for AWD

Bichon

I think you were dozing during that economics class. Companies are trying to maximize profit, not revenue. If there is more profit in the cheaper car than the more expensive one, which one do you think they'd rather sell? I'm not saying that this is the case with the 250/350, I'm just correcting your economics lesson.

shyguy16

Yup, NNJ here and 250 awd is what I see most.

Chi-town

^^^^I second that statement...I'd be right behind you.

Bichon

I'd have bought an IS350AWD had it been available, but I don't think I'd want to take the depreciation hit to trade for one while my car is still new.

An IS500AWD (tuned to be an M3 killer) would be another story, if priced reasonably, I'd be first in line at the dealership, checkbook in hand.

BigChief17

According to an October 2005 review from Frank Aukofer (JSOnline/Cars.com), "Lexus expects annual sales of about 40,000, with 80% of them the IS 250. About half of those are expected to have all-wheel drive."

Not entirely sure if this reflects production.

kensteele

ding ding ding. good point. let's see, dmz is reading from the factory production schedule, dmz what does it say about "if there is more people buying 350s then they will increase the production on the next production cycle" lol?

clubaddict

its only like a 1,200 difference between the 250awd and 350 i beleive...
My mom just picked up a 250awd... she'd rather have the awd than 100hp in NY...

4TehNguyen

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I believed they planned it to be 20% IS350s, considering the sales pattern of the 325 and 330. They underestimated one thing however, 5k for an extra 100 factory warrantied hp and bigger brakes, thats a huge automotive bargain. What did the 3 series offer for a 6k premium over the 325 like 40 hp, lousy bargain. Ive heard some places 250s are sitting on the lot and theres no 350s to be found

Rockville

for the Eastern Region. 715 IS250 AWD's. 37 IS250 RWD Manual shifts. 186 IS350's. The Eastern region was offered 100 additional IS350's on this order from the factory and chose to take them. Otherwise it would be a 9 to 1 ratio without the extra 100 allocated. All year we have been low on the IS350 and really never accumulated many IS250's either. Let the sharkfins begin. If someone wants AWD they should check out the GS350 AWD. 0-60 is about 5.9 seconds.

Rock

Ramon

I see quite a few 350 around here. Admitedly I see more 250's, but certainly not a 10:1 ratio of 250's to 350's... I'd say its about 60/40 or possibly 65/35